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    The future of Martial Arts

    I made this topic as a place to debate/speculate on future trends regarding martial arts. Maybe things like "Is MMA just the new fad, or is it going to become a fixture in sports?" Right now I wanted to bring up one of the things I was thinking about last week.

    I feel like Martial Arts are moving away from being a tool of self defense. I wonder, in the future is it possible for the martial arts to no longer be synonymous with self defense? The seeds were planted whenever the people found uses for martial arts other than self defense, and now it's much more prevalent.

    Many martial art schools now don't even focus on self defense. The problem is most people that join martial arts aren't looking to learn self defense as a priority. Most of my students do it to have fun, or to get/stay in shape, or they want to compete. Of course there are people whose primary concern is learning self defense, but I feel they are in the minority. Hell, I didn't even start martial arts to learn self defense.

    It explains why most of the larger martial arts school around here are mcdojos (for ex. PMA, TSMMA) where the focus is more on making money than teaching actual self defense. The really good MMA/Judo schools that are teaching actual self defense are smaller and sometimes even struggling to make ends meet. Then there are organizations like NAPMA that all but flat out say "Lessening the quality of your martial art is great if doing so will get you more students!"

    I also think it has to do with people generally feeling safer. I know in the late 70s and 80s a lot more people were looking for self defense because NYC was...not the safest place to be. But as crime dropped and less people are attacked there is certainly less of a motivation to focus on self defense.

    I just think this is an interesting direction the martial arts are going in. Especially since it's straying so far from its essence. Martial arts as self defense will never be fully eliminated until we live in a Utopian society where no one fights ever. And then, I fear the only martial arts that will survive will be the Tiger Shulmanns and the Mile High Karates which will then be teaching, I dunno...Tai Chi or Yoga or something. (Kidding, but god I hope that doesn't really happen)

    But I fear this is turning more into a "commercialization is destroying martial arts" rant then a discussion on the future of martial arts. So feel free to respond to what I wrote, or add your own ideas on where the martial arts are heading.


    tl;dr version: **** you, read it! Alright, alright fine....Where do you think the martial arts will be in the future? Will MMA still be as popular? And with the trend of less and less people taking up martial arts to learn self defense, is it possible that martial arts and self defense could become two different things?
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    "Is MMA just the new fad, or is it going to become a fixture in sports?"
    MMA has been going for long enough to not be considered a 'fad'. The first UFC event was held around 20 years ago.
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    Also its really combt sports (things with world champions) that are waxing and martial arts (things with grandmasters) that are waning
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    I think that all of this conjecture is irrelevant. The people who are capable of defending themselves are always going to be those who train the most. There is never going to be a magical art that requires no strength, co-ordination or physical toughness that will prevent the weak from getting pummeled.

    In turn , as long as people train in martial arts, people are always going to find it entertaining to watch the most impressive ones beat on each other.

    If anything, only the stupid will watch MMA and go, "but I can never defend myself with that, that requires effort and training, and I have to get hit".

    Oh wait, that happens now.


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    I think if you took ten guys from the BJJ/MMA school I visited tonight back in time to the TKD school I started at in '79 and squared them off against 10 guys there I know what would happen. The information age has been good for the martial arts. The future bodes well.
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    Also its really combt sports (things with world champions) that are waxing and martial arts (things with grandmasters) that are waning
    You misunderstand people's need for an esoteric experience.

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    Also its really combt sports (things with world champions) that are waxing and martial arts (things with grandmasters) that are waning
    Because champions have proved they're capable as oppossed to a lifetime of drilling and hypothetical combat.

    Edit: Now is also the time of the coach/instructor/trainer.

    Because teaching takes more than experience.

    Decipher that whichever way you will.
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