why does the military teach traditional martial arts like pentjak silat?

***Tranquil Suit*** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 12:05pm

Ooh boy, just give the white kid a rifle already.

**Syphilis** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 1:22pm

Originally Posted by yli

One of my friends in the Army is of the opinion that we return to Hoplite based warfare to resolve our differences.

So basically, he wants to stab other guys in the foot with his spear?

**Grey Owl** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 1:24pm

Originally Posted by chinesefarmer

example^^^^

i remember when i had no experience i was impressed by instructors like this but bunch of years later i realize it's all garbage

why don't they just teach these guys some basic boxing and a mount escape and call it a fucking day?

It has rap music thus it is from the deadleee streetz and is the reelz.

**yli** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 2:02pm

Originally Posted by Syphilis

So basically, he wants to stab other guys in the foot with his spear?

Knowing him, it's because he wants to return to the era where men went into battle naked and loved one another roughly from behind afterward.

**Homernoid** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 3:09pm

Originally Posted by yli

Knowing him, it's because he wants to return to the era where men went into battle naked and loved one another roughly from behind afterward.

like in that turkish oil boxing from obscure martial arts of interest-thread?

**yli** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 4:09pm

Probably.

**battheo** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 4:17pm

When you lose your gun, you use a knife / bayonet / big fucking stick, whatever.

Presumably, you don't try to fucking box and wrestle unless you're totally out of options.

I didn't look at the clip, so I don't know if the guy was any good, but you asked why they'd teach 'traditional arts like pentjak silat' That's probably why.

Also, as pointed out, BJJ, boxing, MT etc is well represented in the military, either in combatives or non-mandatory clubs. The weapon work is not INSTEAD of these things, it's as well as.

****, I dunno, talk to Jimjude, he does silat and BJJ (I think) and he's military. He can probably give you a better answer.

**stray_bullet** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 5:56pm

Also a point that hasn't been mentioned yet is the police/restraining aspects of combatives. Seems like the current conflicts are/were more oriented towards policing so that's what's emphasized. In other conflicts where that doesn't seem so much the case you had more of "teh deadly". This is really out of my expertise so I'm sure that will be corrected as needed and built on but I thought I'd bring that up.

Plus the spirit building aspect a la pugil stick training and the like, but that's been touched on already.

***Tranquil Suit*** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 5:59pm

Originally Posted by battheo

****, I dunno, talk to Jimjude, he does silat and BJJ (I think) and he's military. He can probably give you a better answer.

He's also insane.

**SARS_Attacks** · Posted On: 7/10/2011 6:03pm

Uh,which military is being represented in that video? I know the U.S. has all but ditched BDUs(I think I've only seen a handful of service members wear that...mostly its all the digital print now). Anyways, as has been said, U.S. Army does combatives, which is watered down BJJ at least for Level 1(I admit ignorance on the entire curriculum...as I haven't even gotten Level 1 certified...bleh).