Obscure Martial Arts of Interest

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 7/11/2011 8:32am

Yeh, Jigoro Kano actually discovered Judo from descriptions of Cornish wrestling, which were on the back of a pasty being stored in the fridge of the canteen at a local Buddhist monastery.

**Grey Owl** · Posted On: 7/11/2011 11:50am

Cornish Wrestling claims to have been around since the 12th century and is mentioned in reports of Agincourt.

However as the rules were not standardised until 1923 it must be Korean.

**tim_stl** · Posted On: 7/13/2011 11:37am

Originally Posted by Permalost

I'm kinda interested in learning about destreza, a Spanish fencing style. I've noticed some of the names for things are similar to the ones in escrima

what terminology in destreza is similar to eskrima terminology?

tim

**Permalost** · Posted On: 7/13/2011 11:50am

Originally Posted by tim_stl

what terminology in destreza is similar to eskrima terminology?

tim

I meant that the names in eskrima are similar to Spanish. "Escrima" is a lot like "esgrime", for example. Mano, abanico, daga, espada, etc.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 7/13/2011 2:18pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

I meant that the names in eskrima are similar to Spanish. "Escrima" is a lot like "esgrime", for example. Mano, abanico, daga, espada, etc.

Well, yes, but that's largely because the Spanish language is widely used in the Philippines; it's natural that fencing/fighting terminology should be similar in both Spanish and Filipino arts. As I said earlier, it's very likely that 19th century Spanish military fencing had a more direct influence on modern FMA than did Destreza, which was an aristocratic (and esoteric) art whose heyday was during the Renaissance period.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 7/13/2011 2:52pm

Originally Posted by DdlR

Well, yes, but that's largely because the Spanish language is widely used in the Philippines; it's natural that fencing/fighting terminology should be similar in both Spanish and Filipino arts. As I said earlier, it's very likely that 19th century Spanish military fencing had a more direct influence on modern FMA than did Destreza, which was an aristocratic (and esoteric) art whose heyday was during the Renaissance period.

Yeah, I didn't mean that destreza was the source of the Spanish terms in FMA- it was the centuries of occupation. I'd say that FMA and destreza are distant cousins.