2011 Junior Olympics Judo, Irving, TX

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 7/12/2011 4:59pm

I'm disappointed that a conversation between two old Texan bois was conducted without a single 'ye-ha' or gunshot.

**BKR** · Posted On: 7/12/2011 5:20pm

Originally Posted by Warchief

I'm sure you enjoyed the visit and discussions. I'm looking forward to your visitors getting back down here. We miss them. Rumor has it you may be coming down this way for a visit. I hope that works out. I'd like you to see our new dojo and meet the crew. Hopefully, John will finish his vocab review and I can get him tested for Shodan. Stay safe and give a shout if I can do anything for you. Roy

Thanks, Roy,I do believe we are going to attempt to get to WF for Thanksgiving this year, so hopefully I'll see you then. John told me the new dojo is very nice, foam block suspended floor and all. We are doing the same at our dojo in Creston, BC.

Ben

**BKR** · Posted On: 7/12/2011 5:21pm

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

I'm disappointed that a conversation between two old Texan bois was conducted without a single 'ye-ha' or gunshot.

You and your steroeotypes are going to bring on the wrath of HH if you don't watch out.

BTW, bois is Frog for "wood", isn't it?

Ben

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 7/12/2011 5:38pm

Oh no! What ever will I do against 'incoherent gripping' and 'poor sutemi waza attempts'?

I believe so, if my rusty old French GCSE is to be trusted.

Some gems from my few years of French

Je vais te casser la gueule

Tet du bit!

D'abord je ne savais pas quoi faire mais apres avoir refleche je decide de danse avec une jolie fille qui je voudrais sortir avec pour longtemps.

For the ladies:

Ecoutez Chatte!

Je te casser les jambes

Chatte, préparer pour la biffle!

**pithecircle** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 1:28am

A couple of kids at the dojo I go to got first in their divisions. I was like: Whoah.

**Naszir** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 2:01pm

I met a few people from the Texoma club at a clinic in San Antonio. There was a kid named Devin who was nigh-terrifying. He was taller than me and only 13. The kid said he wanted to go to the Olympics. Did he compete last weekend?

**hungryjoe** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 8:04pm

Didn't see a 13 year old giant, but saw a lot of good judo.

This was our first national tournament.

Lesson learned the hard way.

I'd registered the mighty midget in the 40k weight class for Friday and the 44k class for Saturday IJF competition.

Kid didn't see the practice scales (on the other side of the desk) and stepped up to weigh 40.1k. She stepped and asked if she could remove her top. No such luck. She'd stepped off and that was the official weigh in.

Hardly mattered, nobody else was in the 40k bracket. Total of three for that day and she took the silver. Girl who threw her for ippon turned out to be the number one nationally ranked at that weight.

Day two, only three again as the fourth entry (from day before) was a no show and another brown belt added. Mine's a blue belt. They couldn't throw her, but she was crushed to have lost. That bronze meant more to me than the previous days silver.

One of our dojo kids had nine matches in one day. Three way tie two times and went through a third cycle.

All in all, a good time and well run tournament. For the most part, more time was allowed for newaza before the stand up.

....pulls chest back in.....

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 8:11pm

**Sorekara** · Posted On: 7/30/2011 2:01pm

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

Is this the thread for me and Ben to go on a rant about why the 'junior olympics' is an abomination that should be stopped asap or is that too harsh.

Sensei Pat Burris has quite a few kids that participate in the Junior olympics. What's the problem?

In all honesty, and in all due respect to you Sensei Judoka, Most of those kids have more time in Judo than you and I combined. Maybe their motor skills aren't what we as adults can identify as "apt".

These kids work their asses off to compete and sacrifice alot. Although a social life might be undermined by those of us in the "adult" world. They work hard and sacrifice just as much if not more than most adults. Their life at this time is Judo.

With all due respect Sensei, you are only 4 or 5 years in. Where is your place to question the ideas of those with 50 years in?

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 7/30/2011 3:20pm

I'm not a sensei.

Kano was only 20 years old when he started to formulate Judo, where was his place to question 500 years of Jujutsu and masters with more than 50 years experience?

Maybe he should have just shut his mouth and known his place...

Of course your argument is a silly strawman, just as is my Kano argument.

Everyone knows what's wrong with the putting of 6 year olds into national competitions. Its not the six year olds, its not Mr. well meaning nice guy coach, its coach dickhead.

Coach dickhead who all he does is teach a bunch of 6 year olds to do a shitty drop seoi and then has them go out and do it until their opponent falls over or the match ends.

Then coach dickhead takes that -23kg -6 yead old Junior Olympic champion trophy puts it in the cabinet alongside all the other -6 year old Junior Olympic champion trophies, updates his website and then moves onto the next batch of 6 year olds.

I'll bet if you did a survey of US Junior Olympic champions under 12 years old you would find less than 1% of them were still active in Judo by the time they reach 18.

12 years and above the competition has some merit. 15 and above the medals and titles start to mean something.

Under 12 years though, it doesn't really survey any useful developmental purpose and its mainly just an opportunity for coach dickhead to get his 5 minutes of fame.