how did it survive for so long?

**arsonist** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 4:22pm

OK so I searched around the site and found nothing so here it goes,

how did Chinese kung fu, silat ect ect go on for so long with out people calling bulls#$ on it, cause as Im told aren't these styles millions of years old?

and

if they obviously don't work what the hell where people doing back then for unarmed self defense?

I know this will probably get me banned to newbie town but I just had to ask, please feel free to redirect me to the thread or article that will answer my question. thanx:EWBTE2:

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 4:32pm

Yes, kungfu doesn't work ever:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72258

When you finish with all of those videos, please let me know which competition you are entering.

Thank you.

**ProfessorChaos** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 4:35pm

Not all kung fu and silat were created equal. Somewhere there is a Kung Fu practitioner who develops his chi by running, lifting and sparring that can kick your ass.

**CrackFox** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 4:42pm

People bullshit. People will go on bullshitting until the eschaton, and people will believe their bullshit. It's human nature.

**CrackFox** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 4:46pm

Double post.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 5:22pm

Tom is Back and you might want to fix your style field.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 5:36pm

“Teachers confuse the world, and lead the practitioners astray, all for the sake of fame and profit. I am much grieved by this situation, and it is exactly for this reason that I strive to set things right." Cheng Zongyou commenting on people pretending to have 'teh real Shaolin' in his 'Exposition of the Original Shaolin Staff Method' published 1610.

16th century Ming general Qi Jiguang condemned the 'flowery methods' that had crepped into Kung Fu and weakened it.

People called Bullshit on Bullshit from very early on.

**Gezere** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 6:04pm

Originally Posted by arsonist

OK so I searched around the site and found nothing so here it goes,

how did Chinese kung fu, silat ect ect go on for so long with out people calling bulls#$ on it, cause as Im told aren't these styles millions of years old?

and

if they obviously don't work what the hell where people doing back then for unarmed self defense?

I know this will probably get me banned to newbie town but I just had to ask, please feel free to redirect me to the thread or article that will answer my question. thanx:EWBTE2:

1) Humans have been around for millions of years so there isn't any style that is that old.

2) Any style you see today is NOT practiced like it was then. Example I commonly use is that you can got to 10 different people and have them perform the same Taolu/kata and would get 10 different variations and interpretations. If that is happening now what do you think happened then will ability to document things?

3) Chinese MArtist, any MArtist for that matter, called BS all the time. There were fighters and their were "dancers" and you had many would call other out on that fact.

4) Martial Arts is always going to be around. As long as there is human nature someone is going want to put fist to face. So it will have a continuing presence in society. Not all styles are created equal and you will have BS around just as you do now.

**November** · Posted On: 6/28/2011 11:10pm

Isn't a lot of it a fairly modern response to Kung Fu movies (the emphasis on giant kicks and acrobatic movements, at least)? I thought that the older arts tended to be more reasonable. They're still not necessarily the best way of doing things, but it's easily better than being untrained.