The man who can not be choked!

**Yamabushi7** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 2:29pm

I was reading about a wrestler named Farmer Burns en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Burns who developed a 20 inch neck with a body weight of around 160lbs to resist chokes. It says he had a stage act of being dropped 6ft on a gallows.
It does not say he could not be choked but I guess that is as close as possible. I know a 20 year weightlifter that everyone at the dojo has trouble choking with a gi choke. It may have something to do with his double weave gi.
My question is are there people you have worked with that can not be 1. choked at all, 2 can not be choked with a gi.
Is weightlifting for neck development worth it.
How can you resist a trachea choke?

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 2:34pm

Were you choked, in utero, with the umbilical?

**DKJr** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 2:36pm

Everyone has carotid arteries, everyone can be choked. You're dumb.

**Soldiermedic** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 2:41pm

I'm glad you are keeping up with your reputation as a concise, relevant, and overal sterling poster.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 3:01pm

The gallows stunt really demonstrates that he can't be hanged, not choked. That's pretty impressive on its own though, since hanging causes death primarily by spinal damage, not strangulation.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 3:04pm

Yambushi7 the idiot who can't be out idioted.

**Soldiermedic** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 3:11pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

The gallows stunt really demonstrates that he can't be hanged, not choked. That's pretty impressive on its own though, since hanging causes death primarily by spinal damage, not strangulation.

I feel bad, cause if this information had been presented to me by someone else, or at least in a different manner, I'd felt like I learned a great piece of trivia today

**BKR** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 3:36pm

I've done Judo with guys much larger than me with large, strong necks. The ones with no to little judo experience were easy to choke with collar or naked strangles. The black belts were very difficult as they also knew how to defend well.

Sankaku techniques or ones that combine legs with collars can break down bigger guys if you can get your legs around them.

Like anything else, it boils down to skill of both parties, athleticism, pain tolerance, and probably individual anatomy.

**fights4peace** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 3:37pm

tl;dr

**** thread, shittier poster

**battheo** · Posted On: 6/27/2011 3:46pm

Years ago, back when I still read Blackbelt magazine, I read an interview with JJ Machado, and the one thing I really recall about it was him saying that you had no 'definite finishers' as a grappler. Some people had ridiculous tolerance to pain. And (on topic) I remember him saying that a very tiny number of people were 'immune' to chokeholds.

I don't recall him explaining the theory... he never mentioned particularly muscular builds as an explanation (that I remember).

I know that I certainly CAN be choked out. I am also fairly sure that I have never met anyone who claims to be impervious to chokeholds. I did see Tom Watson survive a RIDICULOUS RNC from Matt Horwich at BAMMA 3 for way too long to be normal human endurance, but I don't know if it qualifies as an actual immunity to such techniques.