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  1. Epeeist is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by maofas View Post

    d. Boxing sucks, krotty is the bestest ever.
    Truth.
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    Western boxing contains some real gold for the serious devotee of serious self-defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    Also, probably no martial art/sport has come under such intense scrutiny and pressure testing, for such a prolonged period of time.
    Wrestling and Judo probably come close! Judo has a good 150 years of international competition and is in the Olympics, huge in Europe, and wrestling is just ancient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealth_monkey View Post
    Actually, that's unsound logic.
    Logically, training 4 things that work would be far more effective than training 10 things that don't.
    very True. "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times. B. Lee
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    One of the main reasons boxing is effective ( in my opinion)
    .you punch a lot harder compared too other martial art punches
    .The punches in boxing uses the entire body which other martial arts uses the weight of your arm for punch power (EX:karate front punch)
    .people in boxing actually spar to improve,instead of front punching the air and doing katas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plyvic View Post
    One of the main reasons boxing is effective ( in my opinion)
    .you punch a lot harder compared too other martial art punches
    .The punches in boxing uses the entire body which other martial arts uses the weight of your arm for punch power (EX:karate front punch)
    .people in boxing actually spar to improve,instead of front punching the air and doing katas.
    I'm working when I want to watch the fireworks so not in the best of moods but I will be civil anyhow..
    To the first point..not necessarily so.
    One strength of boxing is in the conditioning, 'economical' methodology, yes.
    No, other arts do not "just use the weight of your arm" that is a naive statement to make.
    Other styles also spar..
    The question should possibly be "At ( insert situation here ) why is boxing so effective...?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonance10 View Post
    I'm working when I want to watch the fireworks so not in the best of moods but I will be civil anyhow..
    To the first point..not necessarily so.
    One strength of boxing is in the conditioning, 'economical' methodology, yes.
    No, other arts do not "just use the weight of your arm" that is a naive statement to make.
    Other styles also spar..
    The question should possibly be "At ( insert situation here ) why is boxing so effective...?"

    Damn I got verbally pwned. :sadmelvin:
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    Quote Originally Posted by plyvic View Post
    Damn I got verbally pwned. :sadmelvin:
    Not really, don't think you thought it through is all.
    If it makes you feel better when I had been doing SPM for about 3 years I sparred a boxer and received an education i am most grateful for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maofas View Post
    Wrestling and Judo probably come close! Judo has a good 150 years of international competition and is in the Olympics, huge in Europe, and wrestling is just ancient.
    Exactly. They've been important enough, to enough people, for long enough, to get really refined.

    I would say the punches to the head, and learning to work through that, added to the massive money at stake, for some time now, makes boxing the most worked out martial art.

    I'm not saying it's the most effective overall, but I believe the millions at stake, have spurred the most precise examination of techniques and the strategic/tactical implications of them, in an alive enough setting, to count heavily, in a str33t setting. I would say, that the odds of meeting a dangerous str33t opponent, are highest for a person training boxing, more than another art/style/sport.

    Boxing goes fairly quickly to sparring, and learning the skill of working under pressure, and sometimes inevitably with thy bell rung, a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plyvic View Post
    Please tell me more of your experience
    Not much to tell except I realized I didn't know anything about sparring. I am grateful I found out before I descended to deep into the rabbit hole of self delusion about teh de@dly ###g #u. Luckily I wasn't deluded enough to think I didn't need to try and apply it against a live opponent, this being due to the school I trained at being one which sparred. ( I just hadn't done any fully non compliant training at that point )

    #edit# whoops missed the main point.
    There were techniques that were taught as being very difficult for a boxer to counter, which worked fine 'in theory' but which I couldn't make work. Not to say someone more proficient couldn't, but it definitely took the wind out of my imaginary sails.
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