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    LOL @ Bwhite77's response.

    The 2nd person to post correctly why I know he's full of **** gets a free cookie.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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    The only thing this video proves is that the boxer is technically better than the karatekas. The boxer was hitting through his opponents; the karatekas weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwhite77 View Post
    Also remember that while those blocks can be used most fights are won by lucky shots and it is much easier to eliminate those by just bringing your hands up and getting your elbows in.
    Do you really mean most fights are won by "lucky shots?" I really would not bother training for all of these years if I thought luck was the deciding factor. You might say that everyday fights are won by low probability shots ie looping hooks or that one shot that happens to knock the guy out cold. Most people train to put the odds in their favor with skill.

    For Boxing in particular training and odds are the variables. Luck would be maybe the other guy ate beans that day and working his body got explosive results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan View Post
    LOL @ Bwhite77's response.

    The 2nd person to post correctly why I know he's full of **** gets a free cookie.
    Because punches to the face are illegal in TKD?

    Also Tom you fail @ reading comprehension. OP is a "she", not a "he".

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.1_Son View Post
    Also Tom you fail @ reading comprehension. OP is a "she", not a "he".
    Rule 33.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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    My Bullshido fan club threads:
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    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan View Post
    Rule 33.
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    KosherKickboxer has t3h r34l chi sao

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    Luta Livre flees the fight,
    Behold Maeda's sacred tights;
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    Quote Originally Posted by No.1_Son View Post
    Also Tom you fail @ reading comprehension. OP is a "she", not a "he".
    No, you fail at reading comprehension. OP does not gender identify. I think you got tripped up on the parenthetical throwaway line, which was intended to forestall "that's what she said" comments in regards to the immediately preceding sentence (the last part of it anyhow).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington View Post
    Boxing's trained well—live training, and plenty of conditioning and whatnot too. Put a boxerciser throwing "fitness punches" in against a TKDer and it won't go nearly so well.
    Dana White versus Joe Rogan.. oh what I would pay to watch that.

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    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.

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    Boxing is highly effective IMO, because non-aerobic boxing training is highly alive, and highly taxing in terms of cardio and conditioning, dealing with adrenaline dumps, non-flinchyness, and rapid delivery of 'the s3rious'. A guy training to fight in the ring for multiple rounds, put in a str33t setting, without a ref, time considerations, rules, etc..can lay a machine gun burst of whoop ass, in an instant.

    In the gym, boxers can be tackled, low kicked, etc. Outside of it, in clothes, out-and-about. A good chin, and a good pair of hands goes a long way.

    I'm not talking style vs style, or even gym vs str33t. I'm just saying, that on said str33t, all things considered, they're well off in the mix there.

    That goes double in Mass, where kicking/kneeing someone is a shod foot (assault with a dangerous weapon). Fisticuffs FTW.

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