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    How to get out of north-south guillotine

    At times I have success in getting opponents in the north-south position and working the guillotine choke, or at least holding them for long periods until I decide to move or not, even against larger and stronger opponents. When my partners were asking me how break that hold, I couldn't really articulate a good response, although I had an idea and so did the coach.

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    Is the person on bottom on their hands/knees facing the mat (turtled) or are they on their back facing the ceiling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crappler View Post
    At times I have success in getting opponents in the north-south position and working the guillotine choke, or at least holding them for long periods until I decide to move or not, even against larger and stronger opponents. When my partners were asking me how break that hold, I couldn't really articulate a good response, although I had an idea and so did the coach.

    Any thoughts?
    Would you like a video?

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    Turtled yes. Video absolutely.
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    Sit-out before it is set. Get a good wrestler on your team to teach you a sit-out. A strong sit-out is an amazing tool to have in your arsenal.



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    awesome. Thanks!
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    Complimentary to the above is the arm drag, like so:

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShark View Post
    Sit-out before it is set. Get a good wrestler on your team to teach you a sit-out. A strong sit-out is an amazing tool to have in your arsenal.


    The only bad thing about this move is your opponent can block you from sitting through with the arm that is not around your neck and also if you you do it slow he can alligator roll as soon as you place your right arm on the mat. There is a better counter that does not put you in a possible bad position.

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    Thats why I was saying get a wrestler to teach it to you. I don't think that guy in the video does a great job with it. A couple of the higher level wrestlers in my gym sit-out of everything. I know there are counters to it and mine kinda sucks but the guys that have hard sit-outs that put pressure on your shoulder are really hard to counter.

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    The sit out we're taught looks very different to that, the pro's manage to use it successfully just about once a fight.

    We're also taught another escape from here which I've found really easy to learn which gets you to their back. Not sure of the techniques name but I can describe it if anyone is interested.
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