MMA Performance - 9 Years Rule
I received this in my inbox and was wondering what others thought:
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Basically, it's an article that suggests that 9 years are about the maximal time someone can be competitive in MMA (at least in the highest levels the author is talking about) and is about when their skillet begins to start diminishing.
It was an interesting article because, instead of thinking of someone peaking at a certain age, they peak after a certain time period in MMA. They also begin to loose steam, not at a certain age, but after a certain period of years completing in MMA. Additional information below:
Originally Posted by website
His data set is on the small side to make strong conclusions, but big enough to hint them. And his arguments do make sense to me. Good article.
I believe this concept is known as "ring years". If you have fights that take a lot out of you, you'll age much quicker. That's why some fighters become old men by the time they're 30.
I agree. I would've liked to see him take a step further and look at the fight experience outside of mma, like Fedor's Sambo competitions and the high level amateur wrestling, judo, boxing or kickboxing that other fighters have done.
Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit
Still, by and large it does seem to be a pretty well founded argument.
A while back... when Wanderlei Silva confronted Chael Sonnen in that car, remember. And Silva was walking with a cane in that video.
Someone here said something like "Hey you never know if that badass grandpa used to kick asses for a living". Dude, Wandy was only 33!
Well written article. This might be an interesting one to pull up years from now and see how the new data compares.
Yeah, I would definitely like to see more data over time. It would be interesting considering the number of young people getting into MMA with the reasoning that getting in at a younger age makes for a longer career. It also could help in the sports science and training aspect as you would know, historically, when to "peak" your career, so to speak.
At the very least, it brings up something that I've done myself. The idea that youth indicates more room for growth. That may not be the case. It may be from watching other sports such as basketball and football. Then again, those are team sports, and those playing typically come into the sport within a certain age rage and with a certain level of preparation beforehand (18-22 with usually either great high school credentials or college credentials before making the majors).
Originally Posted by atomicpoet
At the same time, these programs also have an established criteria, programs, and training regimens for long term performance gains which, probably isn't there for MMA as of yet. What I mean is, MMA still has a "all comers" kind of aura to it where you take whatever fight you can get, even if it could be detrimental to your long term development as a fighter. Of course, if you go the route of not taking those fights, you could be seen as not being a "warrior". But then, it adds to your "ring age".
I'm also curious about the ruleset amateur experience has on this. In MMA amateur could mean you just aren't getting paid but the rules are the same or it could mean certain attacks like elbows and knees on the ground are not allowed. Could it mean anything that wears on the body, or just anything that wears on the body as much as MMA and MMA-related sports does.
Originally Posted by soldiermedic25
Nine years, including development, is too small a window to market a "name" fighter. By the time five years comes around and a fighter just starts to "peak", that only gives him four years to establish himself as a headliner.
IMO, fighters will need to extend their ring years in order to build their name. To do this, they'll probably:
- Train for more defensive and cautious tactics. This will make for boring fights as MMA matches evolve from all out brawls to chess matches. Whoever wins will be the one with the least exploitable mistakes.
- Take on more "tune up" matches that will keep their names in the public eye while putting themselves at negligible risk. This will puff up their records, but it will also prolong their careers with the obvious benefit of increasing hype for the fights that matter.
Much of this, of course, is already happening. If fighters are going to put their health at risk for their craft, they're going to want to maximize their ring years for bigger payouts.
interesting article. it'll be interesting when the "younger" guys like gsp get up there in years as they have had better training and nutrition than those who started mma earlier
I have to agree. Going to have to give it a deeper read tonight.....
Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit
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