How do you respond to this assertion?

**RWaggs** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 11:35am

Originally Posted by bigmike_ebw

It all stems from bleeding heart liberalism. All criminals must be disadvanted , because people are always bad for a good reason. So therefore all criminals are malnourished oppurtunists.

You actually personally know any liberals who think this? I'm a liberal, and I think that's ****. I also think that the partisan political stabs should be saved for other forums...in your case, probably Freerepublic.com.

**tao.jonez** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 11:45am

I can't believe that people actually believe that a couple hours of "self defense" techniques will work.
I think there should be more focus on the practical side of self defense - environmental awareness. It's not flashy but common sense works wonders.
examples:
Don't go to sketchy places.
Be with someone else (couple or group) whenever possible.
Look around and pay attention to what/who is nearby.

Simple, effective, and free.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 11:48am

Originally Posted by Gezere

COMMON SENSE > CONFIDENCE
I am a Big Black Man (BBM) of 6' 250lbs of muscle and extreme confident. I have a lot of experience with violence but personally and professionally. I carry an concealed firearm and follow rule #9 (Always carry a knife). I am not a soft target. People have tried to mug me. The attempts failed but if it can happen to me then it can happen to a woman with a few hours of karate kata training and I don't like their chances.

You forgot the part where you have a sexy ass.

**cosmichearse** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 12:59pm

This **** really bums me out. A few thread's ago there was that video of using gum up the nose as a distraction against an attacker. My girlfriend overheard it and thought it sounded like a good idea. I face palmed hard, and tried to explain to her how it was the worst idea ever.

I feel like a lot of women see martial arts as an violent, aggressive, and male dominated culture that is not a safe space for women. Also, people who don't know **** about martial arts, and maybe don't have much interest in them, think that taking a few self defense classes is common sense. "I'm not looking to be a fighter, just wan't to learn how to deal with situations on the streets" and that sort of mentality.
It sucks that the response to the need for women's self defense is a lot of bullshit. Especially when people don't to put the time in.

This place, for example, has self defense classes once a week for 5 weeks. That's not even enough time to get footwork down. I admit that I see everything from the point of view of combat sports and how what I learn might transfer over to self defense. I haven't seen what they train, but, I've seen others like it.
http://www.caeny.org/index.html#schedule

I had my girlfriend come to a smoker at my gym that was a benefit for the rape crisis center. All female fighters. Afterwards I think she saw boxing and kickboxing in a better light.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 1:18pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

Matt. didn't you have a story about being beaten up by a girl? Some kind of punk rock girl IIRC.

She kicked me in teh shin with a steel capped boot; we dated for 2 years after that.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 1:21pm

Originally Posted by Omega Supreme

I think you got your stories mixed up Matt. A person with road rage pulled her over and she did that to him.

The story I'm relating involved her walking along some tracks, not driving. Seems like she may have been accosted more than once... which only serves to make the point stronger.

**SifuJason** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 1:26pm

The type of thought in the OP really pisses me, and is part of the reason why I got into teaching women's self defense courses at a college. Yes, confidence helps. However, why can't you teach useful techniques that have a chance in hell of working vs the crap most people teach? No seminar is gonna make you a good fighter in short order, but at least do something that can work, while building confidence, and mostly importantly, and aggressive, fight-back instincts.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 1:29pm

Originally Posted by RWaggs

You actually personally know any liberals who think this? I'm a liberal, and I think that's ****. I also think that the partisan political stabs should be saved for other forums...in your case, probably Freerepublic.com.

Im English, Lrn2 politics. It Isnt America, doesnt work the same way. By our standards, your liberals are conservative.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 6/14/2011 1:34pm

Women are conditioned creatures as are men. Most men (and I'm including you guys) don't treat women the way they should be treated. You treat them the way society says you should treat them.