tallahassee advice: shotokan, moy yat wing chun, animal KF

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 11:40am

Originally Posted by burningflames

but that isnt how kung fu works, just look up xingyi and bagua on wike. isnt that awesome? Im excited but I think im leaning toward learning the five ancestral animals first.... while i can be fit enough to perform to that level of conditioning...

Then shut the **** up and do it already. Go to a class.

**Lindz** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 11:43am

Originally Posted by burningflames

Originally Posted by bigmike_ebw

**** it, im just going to ask.

Do you want to learn how to fight, or how to perform?

I want to learn kung fu!

Kung fu can teach you either. Which one do you want?

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 11:49am

You're either a really unsubtle troll or a total moron.

If you want to do cool forms go do Wushu.

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 12:20pm

see this is why i'm not a mod, i would have banned this guy already, don't care if he's an idiot or a troll. we don't need him here (on earth, OR our forums.)

**Mannetosen** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 12:23pm

Teach yourself Yellow Bamboo. Should be right up your alley.

**burningflames** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 1:46pm

I would just like to know what the first school is offering. what is five animal kung fu? Is it really ancestral to wing chun and karate?

where did it come from to be taught at this school?

is it a good school?

what is it really teaching?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 1:47pm

Originally Posted by burningflames

The chinese place with xingyi and ba gua zha also teaches southern crane and tiger. i dont know if this is the same as th crane and tiger taught in the "five animals" of kung fu. I hope it is, that school is sounding better and better. The teacher there reminded me that xingyi has animal forms in it as well.

I think that must be a great school, san shou, southern tiger and crane, xing yi and bagua zha plus tai chi.

what exactly is southern crane and tiger

The five animals school is also a yoga studio. I cannot decide but I am pretty excited to try them out in person.

No, they really don't have animal forms in the sense you are trolling about. He is either trying to upsell or doesn't know what he is saying.

**burningflames** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 1:55pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

No, they really don't have animal forms in the sense you are trolling about. He is either trying to upsell or doesn't know what he is saying.

he said it had "some"

and i am unaware of what kind of animal form i am trolling about. im just trying to learn

**Tom .C** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 1:59pm

Originally Posted by burningflames

im just trying to learn

The evidence contradicts this statement.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 6/20/2011 2:19pm

I know cultural relativism is a big thing in anthropology. Cultural relativism kind of assumes that judging one culture by another's standards is a barrier to learning. However, when we're talking real martial arts, we can find ways to draw conclusions about martial arts, if we assume that they are teaching a person how to fight. There's a very large body of evidence of fighters from different (and/or multiple) styles, and animal kung fu, wing chun, and shotokan don't have great records (yes Machida did shotokan, but he did other arts as well). If you look at the training methods, you can see why. Fighting is a fast-paced, unchoreographed, multi-person endeavor, and the styles you mention tend to practice in a choreographed, single person routines. This is okay to catalogue principles and so forth, but it shouldn't be the majority of training time. However, a lot of places, it is the central focus, because the art is taught in a linear way and there's just so many forms to learn. Therefore, their training is inadequate for fighting, especially against people trained to deal with an unchoreographed bout.