Posted On:6/13/2011 5:16pm
Style: Kyokushin Karate / BJJ
lol Kenpo :)
But seriously, some of the Kenpo guys have fought in our Kyokushin Tourneys and done well, so I have all the respect in the world for those guys. I won't judge an entire style off that alone, but it does go to show that some know what they're doing!
Posted On:6/13/2011 6:40pm
People say "Kenpo", but not "Karate" so much as they say Kyokushin, Shidokan, Kudo, etc.
Are there institutions of prestige in Kenpo such as those in Karate? Ones that don't market archaic knife techniques as self defense?
Posted On:6/13/2011 7:48pm
Originally Posted by Cullion
American Kenpo is that thing Elvis used to do on stage when he karate-chopped bad guys out of the way during his dance routine, right ?
Look up who Presley actually got his first Dan rank from , considering who gave it to him and the era and how he got it I personally believe that the rank was legitimate , and evidently , judging from tales still floating around eastern and middle Tenn Elvis could fight a lick , but who knows really. And yeah that was some of Parker's stuff he did that you refer to.
It's the same with any style , or for that matter many other things are analogous , it's just part of the sociodynamic , back to TKD for a moment again , 'cause there *was* a day and make no mistake about it , in the early days that TKD was a blood on the mat , teeth in the corner proposition , and that was the points tournaments , but then too it was the era as a factor too , back then most Kempo-Kenpo people could scrap and for damn sure the vast majority of Kajukenbo folks could , there were many examples of folks from Emperado's branch who were notorious for lighting people up on the street.
And then commercialisation happened , litigation came into vogue , insurance went through the roof , people increasingly became reticent on a societal level to train hard , whining about bruises became common , training became less realistic ( and yes much less alive) , certain systems became near cult-like in the slavish adoration of their adherents and pragmatism and practicality went out the freaking window like a bird escaping , specialisation came about , the point tourney thing became a game of tag with some of the most ridiculous crap you've ever seen getting thrown and scored for a point , acrobatic and musical forms took over the forms competitions along with sixty colored satin gis with extra heavy cuffs for that 'martial snap' , and crazes beyond count came and went and came back again and then never left.
And now we're where we are , the one bright spot on the horizon that the MMA crowd has finally pounded the wisdom of crosstraining and training in a resistive manner into some folks.
Gawdamn but I ended up posting some angst ridden old mans screed , musta missed my fiber this morning.
Posted On:6/13/2011 8:01pm
By the way folks , research ( yeah yeah y'all already know) some of the folks who came out of that Texas blood and guts TKD era under Jhoon Rhee and people he promoted , some of those helped to set the base for what is now MMA and modern kickboxing.
Posted On:6/13/2011 8:08pm
Kempo made my jaw hurt once. I don't make fun.
"We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
1) That it doesn't work
2) That it does work"
Posted On:6/14/2011 12:45am
Style: BJJ and Judo
Originally Posted by Ke?poFist
Anyone who knows about REAL Kenpo...
Notice, how he always STRIKES when in a clinch-style situation, giving him a clear advantage over a Jiu-Jitsu stylist who simply attempts to grapple, limiting his tool-set in half...
These two lines is what made me realize you were trolling for reactions, 2 years ago you woulda got me though.
If you train it for self defense, and it has worked in a self defense situation then its good for you. Its not like youre a ninjer or anything, I dont think you need to defend your style to people that don't know a lot about it.
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Posted On:6/14/2011 3:31am
I'll just leave this here:
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Posted On:6/14/2011 8:18am
Originally Posted by Omega Supreme
Don't preach to me. I've met some serious badass kenpo guys in my life. (Of course I've met some highly disillusioned ones too)
I've met very few badass kenpo guys. I met way too many of the diffusional, flappy hand, posing types.
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Posted On:6/14/2011 8:35am
I blame Larry Tatum.
Posted On:6/14/2011 8:52am
Style: Aikido / FMA / Krotty
[QUOTE=WhiteShark;2561107]I blame Larry Tatum.
Is this the same guy? Looks the same!
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