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  1. The Juggernoob is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    Let me guess, you don't know how a kimura works.
    The "Joint", manipulated is the shoulder. I suppose my wording was incorrect. I should have said what joint does a kimura put stress on.

    I should point out for Omega's sake. That im not BJJ, Im just JJ, im a noob, and I only Kimura from Top-Side mount because im shitty from closed guard.

    I merely answered because I have had people try to tell me about their sweet triangles, but couldnt tell me what a rubber guard was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmike_ebw View Post
    The "Joint", manipulated is the shoulder. I suppose my wording was incorrect. I should have said what joint does a kimura put stress on.

    I should point out for Omega's sake. That im not BJJ, Im just JJ, im a noob, and I only Kimura from Top-Side mount because im shitty from closed guard.

    I merely answered because I have had people try to tell me about their sweet triangles, but couldnt tell me what a rubber guard was.
    I should point out for Mike's sake (irony there) that I'm not BJJ. As Matt pointed out above the Kimura (Ude Garame), if done correctly, should attack the elbow. Now in my circle we rename the submission based on which joint you attack. In BJJ Kimura attacks either. So yeah, your first example, while a good attempt, might fall flat on it's face if you were to run into a person who was trained just a tad differently.

    Just saying.
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    I would just asks where they train, what it's like, the atmosphere, generalities like "how's the trainings?", etc. Usually should be able to tell if they're being sincere or not + I'm at least vaguely aware of most of my town's schools/gyms/clubs (small town).
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    I prefer this Clint Eastwood quote for such situations

    "I've drunk more beer and banged more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass that all of you numbnuts put together."

    Also

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    Asshole: What the hell's that supposed to mean, grunge ****.
    Clint: It means: Be advised. I'm mean, nasty and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm and I can put a round in a flea's ass at 200 meters. So why don't you go hump somebody else's leg, mutt face, before I push yours in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    I should point out for Mike's sake (irony there) that I'm not BJJ. As Matt pointed out above the Kimura (Ude Garame), if done correctly, should attack the elbow. Now in my circle we rename the submission based on which joint you attack. In BJJ Kimura attacks either. So yeah, your first example, while a good attempt, might fall flat on it's face if you were to run into a person who was trained just a tad differently.

    Just saying.
    I appreciate you highlighting that issue. I base my definition solely on the fact that im not allowed to use it in Judo, as they classify it as a shoulder manipulation. I will point out, this is what im told by my instructors. To my knowledge it is illegal now?

    Personally, when its put on me , my elbow hurts first, and more. But I have hypermobile joints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmike_ebw View Post
    I appreciate you highlighting that issue. I base my definition solely on the fact that im not allowed to use it in Judo, as they classify it as a shoulder manipulation. I will point out, this is what im told by my instructors. To my knowledge it is illegal now?

    Personally, when its put on me , my elbow hurts first, and more. But I have hypermobile joints.
    You are actually allowed to use it in Judo as long as it is focused on the elbow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    You are actually allowed to use it in Judo as long as it is focused on the elbow.
    Id like to pretend Im skilled enough to do that in Judo. I'll go do 100 push ups. But seriously, Im still at the stage where Im adjusting to new rules over JJ.

    BTW. I saw your makikomi vid on YT. It is a thing of beauty.

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