6/04/2011 6:19pm, #21
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- Apr 2011
6/04/2011 6:35pm, #22Falling for Judo since 1980
6/04/2011 6:41pm, #23
6/04/2011 7:10pm, #24
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- Nov 2010
- Vancouver, Canada
When I took up Judo (as a bluebelt in BJJ) I didn't even consider wearings my BJJ belt to the Judo club... that's ridiculous... and actually I was scared shitless lol. To be fair, I've had the experience of being partnered at BJJ with a Judo-green who was apparently under the impression he was hot ****.
6/04/2011 7:23pm, #25
I've visited the local judo club for their Newaza class and rolled with 3 Judo blackbelts. The two that outweighed me about about 60lbs were about even with me on the ground, except that they were WAY easier to surprise than other BJJers with stuff.
I found it very easy to pass guard against them, and generally easy to keep them from passing on me. Sweeping them was HAAARD unless I tricked them really well, but those rarely worked more than once.
The one time one of the did get past my guard he damn near broke two of my ribs just with Kesa, and kickstand armbarred me because I was busy praying that my ribcage would hold up.
So yeah, I would say that generally speaking a Judo black belt is equivelant to a BJJ Blue belt in pure newaza.
Standing though I wasn't even in the same universe as those guys....
6/04/2011 7:32pm, #26
6/04/2011 8:11pm, #27
Never heard about the BJJ blue belt equals Judo black belt.
Here it is more BJJ purple belt = Judo 1st Dan, BJJ brown belt = Judo 2nd Dan and BJJ black belt = Judo 3rd Dan, based on (here's the catch) mat time, not fighting prowless.
Or with other words: the same time on the mat in hours will give you in BJJ a purple belt and in Judo a Shodan.Originally Posted by Jiujitsu77Originally Posted by HumanzeeOriginally Posted by jk55299 on Keysi Fighting Method
6/04/2011 8:23pm, #28
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- Apr 2011
- San Diego, CA
Yea, I always hear purple belt= bb in other martial arts, but like zendokan said, its not about the skill, its the amount of mat time. A lot of MA gives black belt around 5 or 6 years, which is about the same time frame as BJJ purple belt.When I started Judo a few months back, I came in my Gracie Barra gi, and took a loner belt. I told my sensei I trained BJJ because he asked me if I had ever played Judo before so I figured if I told him about my training I could skip the mandatory first class of break falls and go right to throwing people, but it didnt work.
I will say this though, Ive only been to one Judo club, and I dont want to pass judgement on Judokas, but at my BJJ gym when were told someone is a judo player were really excited because we know he's gonna use different techniques (like kesa gatame instead of bjj side control) and hell pick up our techniques fast. In my Judo club Sensei and students a like have a general distaste for BJJ players. I think Gracie Barra is a lot more welcoming to Judokas than my Judo club is to BJJ players.
6/04/2011 9:49pm, #29
First of all, other than the fact that the guy was breaking the most basic rule of dojo etiquette by wearing his blue belt, he was exceedingly polite and received a free personal lesson from one of the Sensei's. This was the ONLY thing that made him a douche, and he was treated with the utmost respect. He wanted to roll, and was outmatched in weight and skill. The coach wanted a new student and he was looking for something ( I don't know what).
My experience with blue belts at Gracie Barra is there is a WIDE gulf in abilities. Some of them I truly feared, and some of them I was more than a match for. If I decided to do mean, illegal **** I had far more success. But I went there to work out and losing within the rule set served me better.
These guys have no problem at all with anyone. They just love Judo and are very good at it.
Anyway, my comment on the general demeanor of MA guys who convey their toughness still stands. I don't think you have the right to swagger until you reach year five or are just kicking everyone's asses."We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
1) That it doesn't work
2) That it does work"
6/04/2011 10:13pm, #30
We have a new student who came from BJJ, but he has been humble, respectful, and he brought a white gi and got a white belt the first day... he was pretty happy to NOT see the big ego attitude problems here though. He's going to do great.