carry yourself like you don't do BJJ

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 9:54pm

I do it from Kesa Gatame. I pinch the head toward the shoulder concentrating on shoulder control and elbow before release for the submission.

**crappler** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:10pm

Originally Posted by November

I was green when I stopped a couple years ago, but the instructor refused to promote without going to tournaments and everything local conflicted with wrestling so I was a bit behind my skill level. That said I haven't done either wrestling or Judo in three years so when I go back I'm going to just go as a white belt if I can.

EDIT: I'm not really sure what rank has to do with an etiquette thing like this, though.

The color of the belt designates skill level. There is no comparison between walking in with boxing gloves to a boxing gym. There is something very simple going on here. People who rock up with their cock up want to show off. It is a fucking douche move.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:18pm

I see guys all the time who come to MT in sprawl shorts. Amidoinitrite?

**Vorpal** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:23pm

What you wear seems very insignificant compared to your attitude or the way you carry yourself. I have been in all different types of fight gyms and seen people walk in wearing all sorts different outfits. The people who were open, relaxed and friendly were always warmly received. People who looked like they had a chip on their shoulder didn't get on as well, at least not initially. Some people just look like they have a case of the ass no matter what they do, some are even completely unaware that they come across challenging or cocky. Ultimately it's what you do in the long term that matters. I always assume that the person that comes in one day won't be there in two weeks so I don't worry about it.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:24pm

I don't buy the whole "Once you're trained in martial arts your whole bearing changes" thing. I see tons of people out at the bar that don't train that carry themselves just like we're talking about.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:26pm

Originally Posted by Vorpal

What you wear seems very insignificant compared to your attitude or the way you carry yourself. I have been in all different types of fight gyms and seen people walk in wearing all sorts different outfits. The people who were open, relaxed and friendly were always warmly received. People who looked like they had a chip on their shoulder didn't get on as well, at least not initially. Some people just look like they have a case of the ass no matter what they do, some are even completely unaware that they come across challenging or cocky. Ultimately it's what you do in the long term that matters. I always assume that the person that comes in one day won't be there in two weeks so I don't worry about it.

So true, a true martial artist can make people taste his awesome in any outfit. You go girl.

**November** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:30pm

Originally Posted by crappler

The color of the belt designates skill level. There is no comparison between walking in with boxing gloves to a boxing gym. There is something very simple going on here. People who rock up with their cock up want to show off. It is a fucking douche move.

Wearing a Gi and Belt is just like wearing boxing gloves to a boxing gym, they're both functional pieces of equipment. Unless you can show a common belief in Judo and BJJ that wearing a non-white belt to another Dojo's practice is a challenge, then I don't see anything wrong with what he did at all. I don't know if this is a karate thing, but it doesn't sound like anything I've heard of with judo.

Hell, for all you know the reason the guy kept his head down and didn't talk was because he was embarrassed that he forgot his white belt.

**crappler** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:31pm

Originally Posted by JohnnyCache

I don't buy the whole "Once you're trained in martial arts your whole bearing changes" thing. I see tons of people out at the bar that don't train that carry themselves just like we're talking about.

I know what you are saying. It's seems weird, but it is more than the cockiness. It's actually the physical movement as well combined with the bearing. The other day this guy was fixing our faucet and I had this odd feeling. Turns out he trained for seventeen years where I now train and, get this, his brother won the US open last year, I believe.

If you have ever read the book "blink" by Malcolm Gladwell, it's the same concept. I know it sounds ridiculous.

**November** · Posted On: 6/05/2011 11:36pm

The guy could also be a bit aspy.

**crappler** · Posted On: 6/06/2011 12:01am

Originally Posted by November

Wearing a Gi and Belt is just like wearing boxing gloves to a boxing gym, they're both functional pieces of equipment. Unless you can show a common belief in Judo and BJJ that wearing a non-white belt to another Dojo's practice is a challenge, then I don't see anything wrong with what he did at all. I don't know if this is a karate thing, but it doesn't sound like anything I've heard of with judo.

Hell, for all you know the reason the guy kept his head down and didn't talk was because he was embarrassed that he forgot his white belt.

People may not agree that it is a challenge, but I believe that most here agree that it is disrespectful. Everyone correct me if I am wrong.