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  1. lklawson is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmike_ebw View Post
    I dont take it for granted. I just disagree with the lack of transparency in advertising.
    There is no lack of transparency. The fact that there is no "living lineage" and that modern efforts are being made from both original written source material and with original "source" arts is very well documented on the Wikipedia page, the Bartitsu.org home page, on the facebook page, and in the Bartitsu_Forum discussion list. The Bartitsu Compendium has a whole chapter on the history, die-out, and modern reconstruction efforts.

    It's all very up front.

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    Just a note for anyone who has had difficulty booking for the Bartitsu School of Arms online via BrownPaperTickets that the technical issue has now been resolved.
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    Further information on instructors and session subjects for the 2011 Bartitsu School of Arms are available at http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/th...2011/#Training .
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    "Modern" Bartitsu looks to have Wing Chun filling in the gaps. Correct me if I'm wrong. but what arts are you mixing in to fill in the missing areas?
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    There was some Wing Chun in the 2009 "Sherlock Holmes" movie fight choreography, but I don't know of any Bartitsu revivalists who are using Wing Chun as reference. The main sources re. filling in the gaps are detailed in the second volume of the Bartitsu Compendium, which includes extensive excerpts from about 15 pre-WW1 manuals on boxing, judo/jujitsu, Vigny stick fighting and basic savate. Greater weight is given to those manuals produced by former members of the original Bartitsu Club and by their students.
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    Interesting. So is your aim to present the art as it was (as much as poss) or to bring it back into a functional art?

    It was a shame how the founder ended up being rediscovered before he died destitute. I'm a big fan of sherlock holmes, the BBC radio series with Clive Merrison as Holmes is the best rendition.
    From a historical point of view this subject if very interesting for history buffs and martial artists with british heritage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
    Interesting. So is your aim to present the art as it was (as much as poss) or to bring it back into a functional art?
    Both, but different revivalists have different aims and methods. My own point of view is that there's not much point in re-inventing the wheels of, say, JKD, Dog Brothers sparring or MMA, so if you're going to describe what you're doing as "Bartitsu" it makes sense to exert a bit of deliberate anachronism and try to maintain the pre-WW1, "Bartitsu lineage" material as much as possible. For example, some of my own teaching in this area involves first re-creating Barton-Wright's original, stylized self defense sequences and then pressure-testing them by adding progressive layers of resistance and spontaneity.

    It was a shame how the founder ended up being rediscovered before he died destitute.
    Yeah, it was pretty poignant. When British judo pioneer Gunji Koizumi finally tracked down the then-90 year old Barton-Wright, he found him living in a little flat in the London suburb of Surbiton. This happened in 1950. Koizumi said that the room was filled with ornaments, pictures and furniture from the Victorian era. A few months later Barton-Wright appeared at a judo event and was introduced to the audience there, but he died shortly thereafter. Pretty sad end for a real martial arts pioneer.
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    Imagine what would of happened if he had a medium such as film to promote his art, ala Bruce Lee.
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    That's the irony. After the Bartitsu Club closed down, a few people continued to cross-train between styles but the whole concept languished during the early 20th century. If it had taken off the way Barton-Wright hoped, the "MMA revolution" might have happened about eighty years sooner.
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    We've received a query about attending the upcoming Bartitsu School of Arms for single, rather than both days. This wasn't accounted for in the original planning, but the format should be flexible enough to accommodate single day attendance as long as attendees have these requisite skills - http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/th...#Prerequisites .

    Anyone who wants to book on that basis should simply pay the organizers 40.00 directly via PayPal to tonywolf@gmail.com , clearly noting which day they wish to attend. Paying at the door on the day is also possible, but it's *crucial* that people who want to do that should make contact by email well ahead of time; we are strictly limited to 25 attendees on both days of the event.
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