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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmike_ebw View Post
    Ok, that make sense. Thats a shame really. I'd like to see full contact if thats the case. The final vid was close, but it seemed that as soon as one started flailing the other followed. Major case of handbags at dawn.
    Some more full contact :





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    The posturing is the adoption of traditional stances after the technique, while if this was "real" Silat they're be following the guy down with dropping knees, elbows and hand strikes.
    Sometimes you don't even need to follow with strikes, as the throw itself is enough to end the fight.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bakuma View Post
    Sometimes you don't even need to follow with strikes, as the throw itself is enough to end the fight.
    Sometimes a throw does end a fight or a match. Sometimes it does not. So training to back off every time as soon as you do a throw could give you bad habits, do you agree?
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    Agree, boss. ;)

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    Interesting videos so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff View Post
    Sometimes a throw does end a fight or a match. Sometimes it does not. So training to back off every time as soon as you do a throw could give you bad habits, do you agree?
    this is a huge caveat I noticed in Aikido. When I confronted my sensei about it, he just replied "if they keep attacking, then keep throwing them until they tire out"

    ... my response was "well that's assuming it wasn't retardedly difficult to throw them in the first place"... to which he responded "Then run."

    ahh... aikido, how are you a martial art again?

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    First I saw this thread, and then this posting came up in my local craigslist.

    http://worcester.craigslist.org/act/2426267181.html

    I emailed him to find out if it can be done to any music, or if it only worked with certain songs. So far they have not replied back to me. I also asked if they thought putting a lot of ellipses in their ad meant that they were mysterious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soldiermedic25 View Post
    I also asked if they thought putting a lot of ellipses in their ad meant that they were mysterious.
    I think it means the instructor is asthmatic and was dictating his ad to a student.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    I think it means the instructor is asthmatic and was dictating his ad to a student.
    The ellipses is the visual representation of the spasm he got while chanting "please not bullshido, god, please dont let bullshido have this one".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakuma View Post
    Sometimes you don't even need to follow with strikes, as the throw itself is enough to end the fight.
    I've never seen a style of Pencak Silat that considers ANY throw a finishing move. In fact, I don't know of any grappling art that considers a throw a valid "finishing" move. Even if you don't follow the opponent down, you still kick them while their down, whether it be to the groin, ribs, throat or what have you.
    It's very important to remember that these clinch-range throws being demonstrated in competitive Silat are not commonly used in traditional Silat & esp the Dutch Indo styles that came out of the military, as it is usually considered that the attacker has a small blade (pisau or karambit, etc). The beset or sapu sweeps are much more prevalent. I've experienced these throws and when correctly applied they work much like Judo ashiwaza, depending on whether you've triangulated the inside or outside of their foot/ankle & how you're manipulating the upper body.
    You can guarantee these kind of chest-bumping pickups would evaporate from competition if the judges handed out a karambit or two to a couple random competitors.
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