Posted On:3/18/2004 10:28am
Some of them may work, but won't get you an ippon for it, so you better have a followup up your sleeve, oops, no gi right?, Well then up your.....ummm....up yours....ehmm....nevermind...
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Posted On:3/18/2004 11:07am
the clinch happens alot so i think throws can work
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Posted On:3/18/2004 11:29am
i would avoid doing tomoe-nagi, but other than that most judo throws are pretty adaptable to being done no-gi
Posted On:3/18/2004 2:45pm
Style: Judo and BJJ
If you have crazy guard work, tomoe-nagi is not a bad thing.
Better than just doing a jumpin-guard-pull-o-rama.
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Posted On:3/18/2004 2:49pm
i tend to find, just in my own experience, that when someone attempts tomoenage and fails, i tend to get straight into side control, admittedly most of the people who have to attempt tomoenage on me suck, but hey!
Posted On:3/18/2004 3:49pm
You'd have to practice throws in a no gi specific manner, but yeah if you can get good enough.
An...aquaintance of mine and i decided to throw down the other day (he suffers from being a cocky bastard) and as soo as i passed up his hands i hit osoto-gari,later i did tani otoshi, and the last throw i pulled was a seoi-nage, but it was kinda crappy.
and yes , he was tryin to hit me, and hard.
Posted On:3/18/2004 4:27pm
No, Judo throws aren't realistic. They are fake. Counterfeit martial arts, in fact.
God - go away, simpleton.
Posted On:3/18/2004 5:14pm
Style: Be Happy
Originally posted by KillerInstinct
what about as far as the street is concerned?
All I can say is that one of my friends got into a fight and he used judo effectively. He dropped the guy with a throw and the fight was over. The guy just lay there on the floor stun from the throw.
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Posted On:3/24/2004 3:52am
Style: Kyokushin and Judo.
Hmmmm I don't know.
I'm not trying to play devils advocate or anything but not all grapplers can take apart strikers.
How many throws do you see being performed in ufc? Looking at the competition as a whole, very little. Throws are seldom used in competitions like that. Sure the BJJ or wrestling leg shoot works to get your opponant on the ground but if you try applying a judo hold for a throw straight up you normally get heavy elbows and fists to the head for your trouble.
If striking was allowed in judo competitions,you would not see many throws being performed.Just look at some of the streetfights filmed and are available to see on this website on the download sections.Sure most fights end up in the clich.But when your opponant is clawing at your face,smaking you in the gut with knees and punching you in the head,its awfully hard to get a throw on.Sometimes all it takes is one hit to put someone down.
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Posted On:3/24/2004 4:11am
Judo throws can work, but they are definitely lower percentage than the standard body lock/leg tackle takedowns.
Ppl keep talking about the hip throw as if it's something specific to Judo, and that's why we don't see many in NHB - as it's mostly made up of wrestlers. Wrestlers already know all of the no-gi variations of the hip throw, so I have to conclude that throws just aren't as effective in MMA.
I'm not rubbishing Judo btw.
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