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  1. kelvis is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzero View Post
    Here? :PFFFTCCHCHCHHFFFTTT
    Thank you! That's what I'm talking about. That's an intelligent reply, that's what I wanted to hear! Thanks again Rzero :-)
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    Happy to be of service Kelvis!
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    The asian guy in the middle video is pretty good. Nothing spectactular but nice to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelvis View Post
    Witty1 interpreted my post correctly. I'm not talking about fighting like it's a Kung Fu movie or using "flashy" technique like in a movie. I'm opening a dialogue about my observation of techniques being taught, and yet not practiced in non compliant training, and to me this doesn't make sense. I invited folks on the forum to lend some insight into this, and I tried to be clear (fail) on what I was asking for in my initial post. @IIF, considering the styles listed in your profile, I would assume that you actually could lend some useful information on this. Do you/have you ever tried to fight using the styles you learned, or do you pretty much go into kickboxing mode?
    So, explain kickboxing vs TMA fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    The asian guy in the middle video is pretty good. Nothing spectactular but nice to watch.
    He's also in the third video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington View Post
    He's also in the third video.
    Thanks I'll check it out. I'm at work and keep getting interrupted.

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    Though this thread is filled with a ****-ton of dead horses, this quote:

    The question being asked here is, is it possible to actually USE the techniques from traditional martial arts in live sparring with a non-compliant person? And if you are a traditional martial artist, have you attempted to use the techniques when it's time to spar? Or is it thrown out?
    caught my eye.

    The simple answer is, yes. Yes you can use the techniques in live sparring, yes I have used them in live sparring, and yes, they worked.


    Easy answer, right?
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    I once k kicked a guy in hard sparring, and it worked, does that mean that a k kick is an effective fighting tool?
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    What's a K kick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    So, explain kickboxing vs TMA fighting.
    Kickboxing as in boxing with kicking, and TMA using techniques against your opponents method of attack.
    Example: Kenpo: LONE KIMONO (front left hand lapel grab)
    • 1. Standing naturally, step back (to 6 o'clock) with your left foot when your opponents grabs your lapel with his left hand. Simultaneously pin his left hand to your chest with your left hand and deliver a right upward strike against his left elbow just above the joint thus causing the elbow to break as you pivot into a right neutral bow.
    • 2. Then circle your right arm over and down (counter clockwise) with an inward-downward strike against opponent's left forearm. Make sure that your opponent's left arm is driven down and diagonally to your left.
    • 3. After cocking your right hand slightly toward you with your right palm up, deliver a right outward chop to the right side of opponent's neck; stance throughout is still a right neutral bow. Cock your left hand at your solar plexus, ready to check when needed.

    That is a technique.
    Kickboxing is obviously what the name says. It has it's own methods. I'm not saying that it isn't effective by any matter of means, but it isn't Kenpo, or Praying Mantis Kung Fu, or Shotokan Karate, and it isn't considered a TMA imo.
    If you are trying to gauge my knowledge in the arts I can save you the trouble: Look at my profile. There ain't much there.
    I really am curious about what I posted.
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