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    Not to piss on anyone's cornflakes here, but isn't this entire thread one massive straw man?

    I don't know anyone who's making the argument that compliant training has no place in realistic martial arts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingchundo View Post
    Not to piss on anyone's cornflakes here, but isn't this entire thread one massive straw man?
    Yes.

    I don't know anyone who's making the argument that compliant training has no place in realistic martial arts...
    *shrugs* This pops up when someone misreads an argument. It usually involves a compliant video, the implication of badass, and the comment "that's complaint it was terrible." Then we get a thread like this one. People forget that these arguments are old and most "live fanatics" are talking about schools with zero alive and complaint only training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingchundo View Post
    Not to piss on anyone's cornflakes here, but isn't this entire thread one massive straw man?
    No, er um maybe yes. Just the shitty title is a straw man.

    This thread was intended to focus on and discuss aspects of compliant training. What compliant drills you do in your art, what the specific goal of the compliant drill is, and possbily any drawbacks to said compliant drill. So far i've learned a few things about compliant training in judo. Anyone else want to chime in on another style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspeedy View Post
    No, er um maybe yes. Just the shitty title is a straw man.

    This thread was intended to focus on and discuss aspects of compliant training. What compliant drills you do in your art, what the specific goal of the compliant drill is, and possbily any drawbacks to said compliant drill. So far i've learned a few things about compliant training in judo. Anyone else want to chime in on another style?
    Unless your training is Fight Club, you're going to do complaint training in any martial art. I'm not really sure I understand what insight you're looking here. In my BJJ class, we drill specific techniques against compliant partners so we can learn the mechanics. It would simply be too difficult to try and teach an armbar against a fully resistant opponent. In striking arts, pad work is compliant. In judo, every throw is taught on a compliant partner at first.

    Like I said, I'm not sure really what you're looking for here.
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    My kung fu school was one the few that did actually practise full contact sparring, although of course compliant drills did form a large part of the training.

    We were quite often told off for being too compliant. Once we had the basic mechanics down, we were encouraged to resist as much as possible, within the parameters of the exercise (i.e. no punching the guy whose trying to throw you etc.)

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    There are various types of compliant training too. In this video, I consider the training "compliant" but not fully compliant. Each guy is letting the other work his technique without vigorous defense:

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    I didn't read any of this thread so if there is reasonable discourse here **** you.

    OP I challenge you to Gong SAU! I stipulate that you can only compliantly respond to my attacks while I will be attacking full force with full contact.

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