Cool doc. on BS Martial arts

**boxingfan03** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 8:34am

That is the show called ''Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t!'' Season 8.

Topic: Martial arts does not provide real self-defense as it is typically portrayed and generally just boosts confidence, and in fact may lead people to unintentionally break US self-defense laws due to ignorance of said laws.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=L4PVVNK3

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 9:36am

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**boxingfan03** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 4:54pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Read the forums FAQs before you post.

Oups, sorry, I posted it on the wrong forum!

Can we suppress it?

**boxingfan03** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 4:55pm

That is the show called ''Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t!'' Season 8.

Topic: Martial arts does not provide real self-defense as it is typically portrayed and generally just boosts confidence, and in fact may lead people to unintentionally break US self-defense laws due to ignorance of said laws.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=L4PVVNK3

**Bneterasedmynam** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 5:07pm

Penn and teller are fucktards, in their show they suggested using guns since according to them it would have the same legal implications which is crap. The also talked about using the hippie method of just dumping a slushy on your head. So basically what I am saying is don't take self defense advise from hippies, I include akkido in this.

**P Marsh** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 7:14pm

Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam

Penn and teller are fucktards, in their show they suggested using guns since according to them it would have the same legal implications which is crap. The also talked about using the hippie method of just dumping a slushy on your head. So basically what I am saying is don't take self defense advise from hippies, I include akkido in this.

I've seen the episode and their argument is that Martial Arts like the RBSD guys try to push with the whole MURDER OR BE MURDERED mentality are just as liable to criminal charges as using a firearm and much less effective. And they do bash new age "internal" martial arts but I'm pretty sure the old lady in her back yard doesn't make claims of fighting off a gang of filthy Mexicans.

Despite the occasional biased episode and somewhat reoccurring lack of a thorough investigation on potential counter-arguments this episode stands up pretty well and stays on point from what I recall.

**danno** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 8:15pm

saw this when it aired, i thought they misunderstood a few things and i disagreed with parts. in some ways they were right on the money.

can't remember exactly what though, would have to watch it again.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 8:34pm

Really? I just moved this out of MABS. This is not a Serious discussion on Martial Arts it is a TV show.

Read this and don't do it again.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57547

**excludedmiddle** · Posted On: 5/17/2011 9:12pm

Too bad they didn't have a "sports MA" category. Then again it's supposed to be about exposing bullshit, not finding out what works, I guess.

**Bahuyuddha** · Posted On: 5/18/2011 2:23am

I think they raised some good points, but what they didn't really address is that some people just train because it's a fun way to exercise, like playing any sport. As far as their argument about being more likely to get injured training a martial art, you're just as likely to get injured playing rugby or soccer.

Oh, and nice stuff at 16:30!