5/11/2011 10:32am, #31
Good find UK. So why isn't this present in more Judoka worldwide?
What is a lesion? Isn't it a tear or bleed? How would lack of blood flow cause that?
What pain? What nerve? What type of shock?
Southpaw sometimes people pass out instantly from a choke and sometimes it takes a few seconds. This is not conjecture but a fact. So obviously they do work faster at times.Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/11/2011 10:54am, #32
Pressure in carotid sinus baroreceptors. Not a very recent discovery. Pressure in this area has been used to lower blood pressure in clinical environments.
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5/11/2011 10:54am, #33
However, why aren't more Judoka identified, perhaps because they aren't being studied or examined for it. Or because you need to be put out regularly rather than just tapped. From the adbstract, which has very little info, it seems they only noticed the lesion after a brain scan specifically looking for damage and psychometric testing revealed some memory problems.
Its likely that a normal and otherwise healthy person would never go for a brain scan or that a lesion might be missed. Also it depends on the level of memory problems and if you have to be exposed to shimewaza for a long period i.e 20/30 years. Then it may coincide with the natural memory problems that occur with ageing and so be dismissed by people as just naturally getting more forgetful as you grow older and thus never get checked out with an eye towards looking for causes of memory problems from brain damage.
5/11/2011 11:05am, #34
5/11/2011 11:21am, #35
Massage in this area is used to detect hypersensivity in the pressure receptors (for diagnosis) and as a "first aid" in cases of very high blood pressure.
What we have here is not a typical vasovagal syncope but an induced "carotid sinus syncope" which has different symptoms.
5/11/2011 11:26am, #36
OK but it in terms that a 5th grader can understandJudo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/11/2011 11:55am, #37
The definition goes on to list specific conditions (blebs, bullae pustules....)
I found this definition interesting because in oncology we use the term lesion to describe a cancerous tumor, I had no idea the term was so general.
5/11/2011 11:56am, #38
Press here-> -> guy nervous system gets confused -> guy passes out.
5/11/2011 12:01pm, #39
5/11/2011 12:11pm, #40
DCS every time I press there someone will pass out?Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.