5/19/2011 11:09pm, #91
Another avenue worth exploring is what striking pressure does to that nerve/artery, as opposed to constriction. Both striking the vagus/sinus and constricting it seem to have similar effects, based on something I watched happen.
Case in point: I just watched Wanderlei Silva punch Mike Bisping in the neck in the closing seconds of their UFC110 fight, and sure enough Bisping drops like a sack of potatoes.
Bisping collapsed like a rag doll, appears semi-conscious. His legs literally gave out and he was on his back, barely able to defend himself. He looked dazed. Again, this punch clearly lands in the carotid zone. This was in the last 5 seconds of the fight when Silva lets loose. What was a very close 3 round fight went to Silva in the last few seconds because of this knockdown.
So it seems possible that hitting the vagus/sinus area is sufficient to cause the same response as slowly constricting it. I'm not talking what wetware meant by tapping it I mean a solid strike in that nerve cluster.
Like a panic button for your blood pressure. Down you go.
I'll bet there's more video of neck punch knockouts out there waiting to be discovered...
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5/19/2011 11:10pm, #92
It may not be relevant, but I've always had a thick neck. However, I have also heard that neck muscle is unyielding enough to assist rather than hinder a well executed choke.
5/19/2011 11:22pm, #93
I'll bet body chemistry and the quality of blood supply is a big factor.
People with healthy blood supplies (nutrition/exercise) can probably maintain consciousness a lot longer than people with unhealthy blood chemistry, when being choked.
Is it easier to choke a fat person? Now there's some science to explore.
5/19/2011 11:26pm, #94
I think the comment about circulation is the most important, since it's the circulation you're trying to cut off, right? I think the reason for this is because it's simply going be far harder to properly 'cut off' the arteries.
5/19/2011 11:34pm, #95
5/19/2011 11:40pm, #96
I think something else that may confound this is that typically, people who are fat probably have poor circulation due to a lack of overall fitness.. and therefore will be choked out easily, but I don't think it's because of their fatness.
5/20/2011 7:58am, #97
Originally Posted by jnp
5/20/2011 9:58am, #98
5/20/2011 10:02am, #99
I am really pumped at how this is turning out. Now I have to ask can we say that without a shadow of a doubt that a KO from a choke is caused by lack of oxygen to the brain?Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/20/2011 10:20am, #100