Thread: "Martial arts are for everyone."
5/12/2011 9:24am, #81
How do you win while practicing anything for that matter?
If you have been in MA for 18 years just how old are you?Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/12/2011 9:44am, #82
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5/12/2011 10:00am, #83
5/12/2011 10:02am, #84
Age is extremely relevant in the framework of a discussion. I am 40 so it will effect my perception of things due to the life experiences. Plus if your 22 and you have been training for 18 years you have not been training as an adult for 18 years but maybe 6 years really.Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/12/2011 10:03am, #85
5/12/2011 10:08am, #86
I can see how playing martial arts can be similar, but the core mechanical of martial arts is hand to hand combat, whether "fighting" or self defense. It is training for another scenario.
Let me ask you, when you train to perform the uchi mata, what are you training to do?
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5/12/2011 10:25am, #87
I'd argue that relatively few people practice lay-ups in their driveway or spend time at the playground with three friends to "play basketball", that being a game of five players on five in a court of a specific size with two hoops on either end.
At any rate, how much of your martial arts practice involves practicing your goal of being killed by some criminal or horde of the same while your family flees. Is your family involved in drilling fleeing? Oh, and after you do die in one of these brawls against the the forces of evil, what are your plans for family protection?
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5/12/2011 10:31am, #88
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5/12/2011 10:45am, #89
And I pointed out that clearly this isn't so. Most people are applying the skills of basketball to some activity that isn't actually basketball. The endless layups of my next-door neighbor are not to prepare him for five-on-five games on a court with two hoops.
Do you feel that insulting me would get your point across better or worse? I want to understand why the "talk down" tone is appropriate for this discussion. Do my questions bother you in some way?
Well, one—it doesn't take martial arts training to do that. (This went unacknowledged or unargued by you), and two—is what you're training actually preparing you to do that? I tend to suspect not, but you have moved to making a tone argument rather than responding to the meat of the argument. You made a similar dodge with Josh; his question about what your eighteen years of training means is totally apposite, you simply insisted that it was going to turn into an insult. If your eighteen years of training involves ten years of you in kiddie TKD and daydreaming of fighting off Shredder along with your Ninja Turtle pals, well, that really is something different than not. That's not an ad hominem at all.
5/12/2011 10:52am, #90
Are you saying that martial arts training will not increase my capabilities to hold a person back? Is there any self defense use for the martial arts?
And if it's useful to the discussion let's say I'm 23 years old and I've had 18 years of strip mall shotokan karate.