systema

**garbanzo** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 3:26pm

Spunky:

When videos are posted--on a site dedicated to fighting BS in the MA--that show people getting knocked down with no physical contact, you have to expect some mockery.

**Furtry** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 3:31pm

The main guy being knocked over is a KNOWN MMA fighter, with wins in the REAL WORLD over seriuos fighters!

**GajusCaesar** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 3:36pm

Originally posted by garbanzo
Spunky:

When videos are posted--on a site dedicated to fighting BS in the MA--that show people getting knocked down with no physical contact, you have to expect some mockery.

Thanks, Garbanzo. Hell yeah, you do. I don't buy that "trying to recover to a better position bullshit for one second. It's complete garbage. That stupid crap would get you stomped on real quick. I don't have time to read that huge and stupid e-budo thread. You want to defend this crap here, you'll have to post here.

And we DO have context for what is supposed to be in the joke of a video. Listen to the stupid narration on it. Most of those techniques shown on the video are complete crap. How the hell are you supposed to just "stared down" someone rushing right at you, make them stop, and THEN fell backwards? That doesn't work and I don't care what sort of stupid pseudo-scientific crap you come up with, it still won't work. They'd just keep on coming and probably head-butt you in the face on the way in.

I can't even begin to address the abject stupidity in the rest of those "techniques" or whatever you want to call them on that video. It saddens me that people are so stupid and gullible that they will buy into this crap.

If I am "missing" the context of that stupid video, please, Furty, if you were in it, give us the context.

**GajusCaesar** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 3:38pm

Originally posted by Furtry
The main guy being knocked over is a KNOWN MMA fighter, with wins in the REAL WORLD over seriuos fighters!

This is not convincing in the least. You can get almost anyone to do almost anything for money and for many other reasons.

I still don't believe your silly video is the least bit realistic.

**HAPKO3** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 4:13pm

This video is complete and utter bullshit.

Anyone who doesn't see that is eiher blind, a retard, or has an agenda.

**Speed Bump** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 4:19pm

Furtry, when is this seminar in Seattle? I'm less cynical than Gajus, and if it's not some stupid amount of money, I'll go check it out, even pay Gajus way in. Maybe we'll be enlightened or maybe we'll have a good laugh. Honestly, it looks like crap to me. I hope I get to do the knife demonstration.

**GajusCaesar** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 4:21pm

You'd pay my way in, Speed Bump? Hell, I'd go with that. If you get to do the knife demonstration, I want to do the punch in the face demonstration.

I'll even drive.

**MichaelDescado** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 4:24pm

That Systema clip was the biggest bunch of H O R S E S H I T I have ever seen....

**Speed Bump** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 4:24pm

Ha, I'll pay to learn, I'll pay more for a good laugh...ok, your cynicism is rubbing off...

**jellyman** · Posted On: 3/16/2004 8:37pm

Just so you don't think Furtry or Vlad's other guys are easy meat, and find out the other way:

http://systemaclips.com/clips/wkf99.wmv

That was 5 years ago, btw.

If you want a before and after, try this one:

http://systemaclips.com/clips/wkf9899.wmv

Furtry did a 3-day seminar around Christmas in Seattle as a benefit for widows of special forces Americans. Seemed to go over pretty well. Lots of testing.

See you on the floor