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  1. Budd is offline

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    I'll also add that while I'm skeptical of the videoclips I've seen, I've heard that some of the more hardcore budoka that run in my instructor's circles have respect for Systema. So outside of having any personal experience, I'm inclined to take their word for it.

    Of course, us aikido practitioners have never had crappy videos posted as a representation of what we do. ;)
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    Originally posted by garbanzo
    Furtry:

    Dude, it's not as bleak as all that.

    Systema, largely due to the clips that pop up from time to time, is viewed with great skepticisim. But you've already had three people express interest in learning more.

    I would make a recommendation to the folks who are promoting Systema. Make a series of clips that show systema in action: systema vs. systema in live sparring, systema vs. non-systema, but non-compliant attacks.

    I can see how the "soft work" as I understand it could be effective, but I would like to see some demo tapes that show it more clearly and more convincingly.
    Vlad is working on redoing allot of the videos. And he has agreed to start putting out more realistic clips.
    I also have some serious "gun slinger" type clips. But the ex-wife has them and won't give up my tapes as she thinks there's clips of her with a 12 inch dildo in there some where:D
    Once I get the tapes back I'll post an ass kicking that I'm fond of.
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    I would say I highlighted a bit that I found interesting. I would not have put it elsewhere as a quote and don`t think to be overly known to muddle with sources.
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...?threadid=4986
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    Originally posted by SCO
    Basicaly, yes. The big guy is Mikhail (the "master" of this style) spent allot of time pounding us to get us to move like that:rolleyes: .
    He chipped my teeth when I went at him full on. One other seminar he KOed me. So when people see that kind of thing they tend to move
    :)

    Really?
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    Of course!
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    Originally posted by Budd
    I'll also add that while I'm skeptical of the videoclips I've seen, I've heard that some of the more hardcore budoka that run in my instructor's circles have respect for Systema. So outside of having any personal experience, I'm inclined to take their word for it.

    Of course, us aikido practitioners have never had crappy videos posted as a representation of what we do. ;)
    You don't say;) :D
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    Now that Budd is here, I think it's time for a group hug.
    The vast Universe!
    The Way of Aiki to to become
    The light of all mankind
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    --O Sensei

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    Fuggedabowdit!

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    Some more clips - most of these are still demo / training situations though

    Spets guys (flashy work) : http://www.systemauk.com/video/spets3.mpg

    Outdoor training: http://www.systemauk.com/video/out1.mpg

    Crowd training http://www.systemauk.com/video/bar1.mpg

    Bar room training / teaching: http://www.systemauk.com/video/bar3.mpg

    Russian mass fighting http://www.systemauk.com/video/mass1ff.mpg

    Crowd 2 http://www.systemauk.com/video/mass2.mpg

    As I said, still mostly training / teaching stuff. Our door is always open.
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