Judo Throws in Sumo

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 4/27/2011 12:35pm

I don't know what a Sumoka is but it sounds delicious!

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 4/27/2011 12:50pm

Think I had one of those at an Indian place once and it gave me the shits.

**keyoz** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 2:35am

Yeah its Sumotori as 100xobm said. Sumoka is the incorect polish name for a sumo practitioner. Funny enough I'm the one who's correcting others when they use it.

**chops** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 12:15pm

Sorry for the quality of the pic. I was trying to find a picture showing sumo from Meiji era. I have seen a couple of photos around that show Sumo wrestlers with physiques closer to that of Rugby players than of Mcdonalds eating cab drivers.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7726011...7871/lightbox/

I thought it may be of interest to those who might have only seen Sumo players of the type that predominate these days.

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 3:59pm

Originally Posted by chops

Sorry for the quality of the pic. I was trying to find a picture showing sumo from Meiji era. I have seen a couple of photos around that show Sumo wrestlers with physiques closer to that of Rugby players than of Mcdonalds eating cab drivers.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7726011...7871/lightbox/

I thought it may be of interest to those who might have only seen Sumo players of the type that predominate these days.

If Japanese sumo had weight classes you might see different builds, but it doesn't so putting on more mass over your heavily muscled frame can only make you better at what you do sumo-wise.

**Gabetuno** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 4:40pm

Originally Posted by Epeeist

If Japanese sumo had weight classes you might see different builds, but it doesn't so putting on more mass over your heavily muscled frame can only make you better at what you do sumo-wise.

If that were true than the best Sumo players would probably also be the biggest, which isn't necessarily the case. I think to a good degree it's about the spectacle.

The pic above is awesome, and I always suspected Sumo originally looked more like Bukh fighters.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 4:44pm

Also probably important to remember that at the turn of the previous century people were massively undernourished compared to today. Even in the richest and most advanced countries in the world. Britain's men of fighting age were found to be so woefully undernourished and poorly fed during the Boer War that it sparked a national crisis.

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 4:45pm

Originally Posted by Gabetuno

If that were true than the best Sumo players would probably also be the biggest, which isn't necessarily the case. I think to a good degree it's about the spectacle.

The pic above is awesome, and I always suspected Sumo originally looked more like Bukh fighters.

Not quite what I meant, you have to have skill but I meant piling on weight makes that skill even better a lot of the time. Weight cannot replace skill but it's awfully hard to move someone who outweighs you by 100 pounds, regardless of skill, so a lot of smaller sumo guys have to get crafty. I saw footage somewhere of a guy FREAKING JUMPING OVER THE OTHER GUY on the initial charge, causing him to charge right out of the ring. I wish sumo were more widespread as I'd like to add some of their throws to my standing grappling. I'm kind of getting at the old "skilled big man versus skilled small man" saw.