My utter disdain for traditional martial arts grows by leaps & bounds...

**Jazz.w92** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 10:51pm

Originally Posted by Epeeist

If I ever make it to upper level MMA, I am going to Meia lua the **** out of someone until Capoeira is the new deadly fighting style. "Capoeira is back! Epeeist Capoeira!"

I NEED to start being more consistent with capoeira...I keep missing sessions to do assignments and now I'm heading into study mode for finals...

My personal faves are the queixada and armada though xD mostly because I can really get the speed and power behind them

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:14pm

Originally Posted by Jazz.w92

I NEED to start being more consistent with capoeira...I keep missing sessions to do assignments and now I'm heading into study mode for finals...

My personal faves are the queixada and armada though xD mostly because I can really get the speed and power behind them

I love queixada and armada too, I especially like comboing them then passing into an au to try to get around my opponent. My instructor, Graduado Colirio, also encourages us to go out and experiment and fight guys from other styles at high contact level to adapt our stuff for fighting. He's really big on each ove having three puposes: roda/game, floreia/beauty/style, and fighting and each movement is done differently in each. I always liked meia lua because it's great for fighting (especially the standing/no hands variant which is essentially a spinning hook kick) and looks great in the roda as well.

**Smoke** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:28pm

Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw

I'd like to point out that once you have a black belt in one style of karate, it's not that hard to get a second one. Hell, I got a red belt in Tang Soo Do virtually by accident.

I can agree with this.

I took Isshinryu Krotty for 4 years and switched to Kyokushin for a couple of years.
After taking a two year break I came back this year and got my Shodan.

Woop.

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:30pm

Originally Posted by Smoke

I can agree with this.

I took Isshinryu Krotty for 4 years and switched to Kyokushin for a couple of years.
After taking a two year break I came back this year and got my Shodan.

Woop.

Doesn't Isshin ryu have different kata than Kyokushin and Shotokan? Where is Seisan kata from besides Isshin ryu, just curious?

**Jazz.w92** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:33pm

we did seisan in Wado...such a strange kata...

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:35pm

Originally Posted by Jazz.w92

we did seisan in Wado...such a strange kata...

It's even weirder in Isshin ryu. I did a trial week of Isshin ryu and actually kind of like how vertical punching feels when I hit things and when I do it, but I wonder how much if that is that it is in some way better or if it's just a placebo effect.

**Smoke** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:39pm

Originally Posted by Epeeist

Doesn't Isshin ryu have different kata than Kyokushin and Shotokan? Where is Seisan kata from besides Isshin ryu, just curious?

Seisan is from Shorin-Ryu if I remember correctly.

Notice the narrow stances.

Isshin-Ryu and Kyokushin share common techniques and katas:
-Narrow and natural stances
-Hard force to force blocks
Katas:
-Naihanchi
-Seienchin (Kyokushin) is strikingly (no pun intended) similar to Seiuchin in Isshinryu
-Tokumeno kune no dai (bo kata)

Depending on your organization of Kyokushin, they share a couple of the same katas.

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:42pm

They share Sanchin too I think. I asko because Kyokushin is on my short list of things I'm looking into training once I move to a new, much bigger city. There's a Kyokushin and Enshin school and I plan to crosstrain judo with some sort of traditional, but hard sparring and alive striking art.

**Smoke** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:44pm

Yes, Sanchin is nearly the same too, just a little different.

In Isshin-Ryu, you face one direction the whole time.
In Kyokushin, we turn around once and then turn back to the original direction.

**Epeeist** · Posted On: 4/28/2011 11:53pm

Originally Posted by Smoke

Yes, Sanchin is nearly the same too, just a little different.

In Isshin-Ryu, you face one direction the whole time.
In Kyokushin, we turn around once and then turn back to the original direction.

Another quick Kyokushin question I have is I have noticed that they do less evasion than Shotokan or Enshin and focus mainly on toughness in dealing with strikes. Is this a correct observation or am I just watching the wrong videos?