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  1. GIburner is offline

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    4/20/2011 12:36pm

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    The Monk Guard

    Going through my endless folder of BJJ instructionals I've downloaded iin the past, I've come across Tony Desouza's "Cholitzu". A series of techniques is taught by the "Peruvian Savage" in No-gi MMA inclined style grappling.

    I'm not sure if its the big billowy beard, kids loudly playing in the backround, the drilling and the hammering going on behnind the camera that almost drowns out Tony's vague explanation and details or the unconventional techniques that make it hard for me to take the instructional seriously.

    I know Tony Desouza is an experienced MMA fighter and had successfully finished pro fights with submissions but I'm not sure if Tony himself completely understands exactly how he arrives at his techniques. Many times, during the explaining of the "monk guard", he stops explaining the technique and does the move, saying things like "exaaactly" and emphasizes good technique being done by saying "see? I'm twisting his body wear its not supposed to go, huhuhu"

    The monk guard looks like a fetal position with your opponent in side control. it involves keeping your legs and arms in a box-like form, laying on your side, never both shoulders on the mat. Instead of bringing your knee through and looking for a conventional guard, The Peruvian Savage uses his position to bump his opponent over or find a way for a top position, using his legs to tangle his opponents legs, and getting to his knees.

    Has anyone added the Monk guard or any "Cholitzu" techniques to their Jiu Jitsu?
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    4/20/2011 1:01pm

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    I utilize something similar by keeping my knee glued to my elbow when someone starts to get the pass. I typically transition briefly through upside down guard, spinning on my shoulders, to get back to full guard. My instructor has called this the "ball" game in the past due to the fact that you "ball up" when employing this technique.

    I'll write more later when I'm not posting from a phone.
  3. GIburner is offline

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    4/21/2011 9:53am

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    It looks like its very defense-based tactics. Reminds me of the way Eduardo Telles plays, Although I respect Telles' Jiu Jitsu much more.
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    4/21/2011 10:07am

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    I refuse to acknowledge this as a guard position. I think they need to rename it. I rolled with De Souza once back in 2001 (I guess, I can't remember the actual year) He's a nice guy if a bit eccentric.
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    4/21/2011 10:47am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega View Post
    I refuse to acknowledge this as a guard position. I think they need to rename it. I rolled with De Souza once back in 2001 (I guess, I can't remember the actual year) He's a nice guy if a bit eccentric.
    Did he use any of his unconventional techniques during the roll? Did you have any opportunity to establish side control or put him in a position for him to utilize the Monk "guard"?
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    Is there any video on these here internets of this madness?
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    4/21/2011 10:58am

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    there is, just look up "monk guard" in youtube, should pull right up. I'm at work and cannot get on youtube, otherwise I would provide a link.

    You'll see a video with a bearded man in no-gi attire. You'll hear loud drilling and hammering noises in the backround.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIburner View Post
    Did he use any of his unconventional techniques during the roll? Did you have any opportunity to establish side control or put him in a position for him to utilize the Monk "guard"?
    LOL....No dude he didn't speak much and my game was more leg lock position than establish side control. Threw him off.
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    4/21/2011 11:37am

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    log:

    leg-locks= The anti-Cholitzu
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    This might have been before his monk guard.
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