Page 1 of 2 12 Last

Thread: The Monk Guard

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    88
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    The Monk Guard

    Going through my endless folder of BJJ instructionals I've downloaded iin the past, I've come across Tony Desouza's "Cholitzu". A series of techniques is taught by the "Peruvian Savage" in No-gi MMA inclined style grappling.

    I'm not sure if its the big billowy beard, kids loudly playing in the backround, the drilling and the hammering going on behnind the camera that almost drowns out Tony's vague explanation and details or the unconventional techniques that make it hard for me to take the instructional seriously.

    I know Tony Desouza is an experienced MMA fighter and had successfully finished pro fights with submissions but I'm not sure if Tony himself completely understands exactly how he arrives at his techniques. Many times, during the explaining of the "monk guard", he stops explaining the technique and does the move, saying things like "exaaactly" and emphasizes good technique being done by saying "see? I'm twisting his body wear its not supposed to go, huhuhu"

    The monk guard looks like a fetal position with your opponent in side control. it involves keeping your legs and arms in a box-like form, laying on your side, never both shoulders on the mat. Instead of bringing your knee through and looking for a conventional guard, The Peruvian Savage uses his position to bump his opponent over or find a way for a top position, using his legs to tangle his opponents legs, and getting to his knees.

    Has anyone added the Monk guard or any "Cholitzu" techniques to their Jiu Jitsu?

  2. #2
    jnp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    8,344
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I utilize something similar by keeping my knee glued to my elbow when someone starts to get the pass. I typically transition briefly through upside down guard, spinning on my shoulders, to get back to full guard. My instructor has called this the "ball" game in the past due to the fact that you "ball up" when employing this technique.

    I'll write more later when I'm not posting from a phone.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    88
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It looks like its very defense-based tactics. Reminds me of the way Eduardo Telles plays, Although I respect Telles' Jiu Jitsu much more.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    West Coast
    Posts
    23,472
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I refuse to acknowledge this as a guard position. I think they need to rename it. I rolled with De Souza once back in 2001 (I guess, I can't remember the actual year) He's a nice guy if a bit eccentric.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    88
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega View Post
    I refuse to acknowledge this as a guard position. I think they need to rename it. I rolled with De Souza once back in 2001 (I guess, I can't remember the actual year) He's a nice guy if a bit eccentric.
    Did he use any of his unconventional techniques during the roll? Did you have any opportunity to establish side control or put him in a position for him to utilize the Monk "guard"?

  6. #6
    WhiteShark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Atlanta GA
    Posts
    9,167
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Is there any video on these here internets of this madness?

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    88
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    there is, just look up "monk guard" in youtube, should pull right up. I'm at work and cannot get on youtube, otherwise I would provide a link.

    You'll see a video with a bearded man in no-gi attire. You'll hear loud drilling and hammering noises in the backround.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    West Coast
    Posts
    23,472
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by GIburner View Post
    Did he use any of his unconventional techniques during the roll? Did you have any opportunity to establish side control or put him in a position for him to utilize the Monk "guard"?
    LOL....No dude he didn't speak much and my game was more leg lock position than establish side control. Threw him off.

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    88
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    log:

    leg-locks= The anti-Cholitzu

  10. #10

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    West Coast
    Posts
    23,472
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This might have been before his monk guard.

Page 1 of 2 12 Last

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO