Thread: Wing Chun
4/17/2011 7:16pm, #21
We will not see eye to on this one.
Is it because of his Chun history (not as training, but his wanting to prove its worth as a style etc), hmmm dunno.
And those characteristics, I consider douchey. And again he only showed them in that last message, not the rest of the video.
You give me one with a hint of smack talking prevalent in MMA. We will disagree on this point.
4/17/2011 7:18pm, #22
For the sake of anyone reading who's not playing-idiot, I'll 'enlighten'
Wing Chun Kicks are faster than other kicks, such as Thai kick.
Grappling, we do chi sao so it will be near impossible to attack.
Ground attack, opponent have to be able to grab us first. :)
- The triangle stance is prone to takedowns, and all manner of attacks. It's just not a solid way to stand, if someone wants to brace against power from the front.
- Weak kicks and punches, though fast, are generally not a high percentage defense against determined attempts to take-down, or pounce-and-pummel. A weak attacker is also left prone to counter-punching, or simply the simultaneous trading of punches/kicks.
- The center-line guard of wing chun is specifically weak against feints, as an attempt to make-and-maintain contact is coming. Jab left-hook is a wonderful solution to the wc guard, as I've found out myself. It's just too easy. Mix it up with low kicks, and you're golden.
- Lack of resistance, and compliant drills in training leaves much speculation as to the potential effectiveness of even 'master' chunners.
Please advise, as I need enlightenment.
4/17/2011 7:19pm, #23
4/17/2011 7:21pm, #24
4/17/2011 7:22pm, #25
4/17/2011 7:24pm, #26
Oh, thought it was the other way around.go to http://www.bullshido.net/forums/prof...do=editoptions > under Thread Display Options > Number of Posts to Show Per Page: 40
4/17/2011 7:28pm, #27
Yes, he was brought up in at least 5 chun threads on bullshido. I can get the threads so, we don't rehash his entire career in another YMAS Chun thread.
Until I see more, that idiotic rant is an aberration for me.
4/17/2011 8:33pm, #28
I was approached by someone the other day who was a wing chun guy. The delusion was there, "pressure points" were brought up as an example of it. I think the main thing that got me chuckling on the inside (I had to maintain a cool exterior as he was a customer in my mate's shop, engaging in put downs is not good for business, I've been informed), was the sudden and inexplicable explanation that the vertical fist is much more stable than the horizontal one preferred by boxers. He proved this by balling a fist horizontally and grabbing it with his other hand (?!?) and showing that it could break the wrist, then showing that when it is vertical the movement is diminished, therefore the chance of breaking the wrist is reduced. The wrist STILL HAS THE SAME FUCKING RANGE OF MOVEMENT WHETHER VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL, meaning the koolaid had been drank, swam in, urinated in and drank again. Furthermore, in order to break something, YOU HAVE TO HAVE POWER BEHIND IT, which boxers tend to have. My inner comedian was having a field day.
I just kept on saying, "yeah, thats why I like judo/ jiu jitsu. I'll hug you to stop you from punching me, take you to the ground any way possible and make you **** your pants when I choke you out."
Fortunately he was aware of his no-having-ground-game-ness and said he was looking for a BJJ academy, mainly because as a black sash he didn't feel he was progressing that much anymore. I said, "good."
I directed him to bullshido.net. I also told him to read and not post for a while. I hope the OP isn't him.
4/17/2011 8:51pm, #29
4/17/2011 9:05pm, #30
No, he has been discussed and posted up as a Chun guardian. Every article, post, or whatever is pretty much like the second video. He strikes with Chun and knows BJJ helped him him win.