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    How the hell is Wing Chun even remotely close to Judo or Boxing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShouBox View Post
    Sorry I didn't make this part clear. I think it's useful because a single/combined list can instantly show that individual/group's thoughts on which styles are most useful.(mostly in MMA in this case) This can save a lot of time for questions of "which is better?/which do you think is better?" from newcomers(like my self).
    You want to do MMA? Do BJJ, wrestling and either Muay Thai or boxing. That's what every else does, as that's what works best. You'll also need to have a regular integrated MMA class, as you're not going to be able to just mix them up without practice.

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    I hope it is not going to be like people will say that my art is better than your art so therefore I AM better than you. I saw tai chi in the lowest tier BUT I am 100% sure that I can find a tai chi guy that can beat up 90% of guys that post here. Just saying.

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    Depends entirely on what kind of Tai Chi you're talking about. There are Tai Chi guys who do really well in Sanda\Sanshou.

    What one can note, however, is the overwhelming tendency in an art. Even if one in a hundred schools of a specific art is good, sending people to train in that art without knowing anything about the dojo\gym\whatever itself is risky. Sport martial arts are usually lower on bullshit due to the nature of full-contact competition, and for that reason schools are usually better.

    What one guy doing a particular art is capable of is irrelevant, as you need to look at how an average student performs. I'm sure some dude playing Lacrosse or tennis could beat the crap out of me, but that doesn't validate it as a combat sport. It just means I'm a terrible fighter.
    Last edited by Mannetosen; 4/16/2011 3:21pm at . Reason: Clarifying

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShouBox View Post
    Sorry I didn't make this part clear. I think it's useful because a single/combined list can instantly show that individual/group's thoughts on which styles are most useful.(mostly in MMA in this case) This can save a lot of time for questions of "which is better?/which do you think is better?" from newcomers(like my self).
    MMA is not a style, it is a rule set. As you can see no one agrees.

    I'm sorry a lot of you don't like this idea. But to make things a little more clear.
    -the Pokemon part is just a method for labeling (bad, decent, good), like I said you can use your own labels. The main focus is not Pokemon.
    -I know my example list isn't a good one. And, I'm not going to back it up because I don't have much confidence in it. Don't get caught up on the example, it is just a template.
    A poor template even with out the pokemon label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    A poor template even with out the pokemon label.
    What would be an example of a good template then? If you think a significantly meaningful ranking is even possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShouBox View Post
    What would be an example of a good template then? If you think a significantly meaningful ranking is even possible.
    Who knows? Even a statistical analysis of what base arts most MMA fighters train wouldn't be entirely accurate as MMA hasn't been around long enough to reach equilibrium in this area in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Guess View Post
    Individual > Training Methods > Style
    I'd say this is a pretty good "template" and as close as you'll come anyways. A good coach can label his Muay Thai Snack-Fu if he wants and you'd still get quality training.

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    Could it be possible to introduce move types to this discussion?

    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type_chart

    e.g.

    Ninjutsu = dark/poison
    Mantis boxing = bug
    Boxing = fighting
    Capoeira = flying
    JKD = water/dragon
    Iaido = steel
    BJJ = ground
    Judo = rock
    Streetfighting = normal

    etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larus marinus View Post
    Could it be possible to introduce move types to this discussion?

    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type_chart

    e.g.

    Ninjutsu = dark/poison
    Mantis boxing = bug
    Boxing = fighting
    Capoeira = flying
    JKD = water/dragon
    Iaido = steel
    BJJ = ground
    Judo = rock
    Streetfighting = normal

    etc.
    OK, now we're getting somewhere.

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