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  1. Gezere is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Like_A_Boss View Post
    I think you are crazy, my money is on Shields.

    Jake shileds is a elite grappler, with titles like:

    Strikeforce Middleweight Champion
    Elite XC Welterweight Champion
    Shooto Middleweight Champion

    Grappling Accolades:

    2005 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Bronze Medal
    2005 Pan American Championships Gold medalist
    2005 Gracie open superfight champion
    Grapplers Quest advance champion (three times)


    He is on a 15 fight winning streak since 2005.

    I think this is a pretty good resume vs GSP, I dont think it will be a easy fight but I believe Jake Shields will be the dominate fighter on the ground and will pull off a second round submission.

    Now to just hope I'm right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Like_A_Boss View Post
    I think you are crazy, my money is on Shields.

    Jake shileds is a elite grappler, with titles like:

    Strikeforce Middleweight Champion
    Elite XC Welterweight Champion
    Shooto Middleweight Champion

    Grappling Accolades:

    2005 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Bronze Medal
    2005 Pan American Championships Gold medalist
    2005 Gracie open superfight champion
    Grapplers Quest advance champion (three times)


    He is on a 15 fight winning streak since 2005.

    I think this is a pretty good resume vs GSP, I dont think it will be a easy fight but I believe Jake Shields will be the dominate fighter on the ground and will pull off a second round submission.

    Now to just hope I'm right.
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    Does Jake Shields deserve all his hype? quite simply yes...and Hell Yes!
    Is he on a 15 fight win streak being undeafeted since 2004? Yes!

    Is he one of the top five welterweights in the world? Yes!

    And of the top welterweights in the world isn't he the only one who hasn't already lost to GSP? YES...if you don't include Nick Diaz.

    So he undoutedly deserves all of his hype, but his chances of actually winning the fight are another matter. This fight will come down to two things: Can Shields get GSP to the ground ,and is he better on the ground? In my opinon yes. Jake Shields has the better grappling credentials, and if you look atthe Dan Hardy fight you see that GSP has great takedowns, but dosen't show the same level of potional control the Jake Shields does! GSP may be bigger then Shields, but Shields has faced Okami at welterweigtht as well as, Miller ,Lawler, and Henderson at middleweight so I don't think GSP's size and strength will overwhelm him. Now GSP is light years better than Jake Shields in terms of stand-up in fact if GSP can keep the fight standing he wins period. I say if he can, because even though GSP said he knows what Shields want to do in the fight, take him down and control him, Everbody knows thats whats Shields does. It's what he always has done, but for the past six years no one has been able to do anything about it.

    Thats the scariest thing about Jake Shields. Nobody has been able to stop him from doing what THEY KNOW HE WANTS TO DO, because he is just that good, and if GSP dosen't recognise that then Shields is good enough to beat him!
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    Like most, my money is on GSP. However, I could definitely see GSP taking a loss soon, but not because the competition is better than him. Based on comments he's made, I think he's really starting to feel the pressure to make his fights exciting.

    He hears all the talk about boring fights and he really wants to finish. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start deviating from his usual watertight gameplans and taking more risks. If he does, it won't be long before he takes a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezere View Post
    You know what this means to GSP? NOTHING!!!!
    This.

    GSP has managed to make elite level grapplers look like spazzing noobs time and again. It's disgusting. So disgusting that I tried to hate him for a while. I couldn't make it stick, though, since he's usually very humble and down to earth in his interviews. He comes off as cocky every once in a while, but I think that's mostly because he isn't as proficient with English as he is with fighting.
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    Well... I think anything can go wrong in a fight. One wrong move and you're done. But my money is on GSP, even though Shields has a 15-fight winning streak. GSP is a better wrestler, IMO. He also is a better stand-up fighter.
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    Sorry but Jake Shields is a completly different animal than the grapplers GSP has faced before, I pretty sure he won't be able to man handle Sheilds at all on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by korean dragon View Post
    Sorry but Jake Shields is a completly different animal than the grapplers GSP has faced before, I pretty sure he won't be able to man handle Sheilds at all on the ground.
    I don't think he'll even try.
    He'll beat him up standing and if the opportunity is there he'll take him down, beat him up a little and disengage.
    We all know it, GSP knows it, and I'm guessing somewhere in the back of his mind, Jake Shields knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by korean dragon View Post
    Sorry but Jake Shields is a completly different animal than the grapplers GSP has faced before, I pretty sure he won't be able to man handle Sheilds at all on the ground.
    So Matt Hughes, BJ Penn and John Fitch aren't elite grapplers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo Sigma View Post
    Shields has a good chance chance on the ground, if he manages to get a hold of GSP, get him down, and keep him down. Which isn't going to be easy considering Shields' standup couldn't kill a fly, and GSP has stuffed or gotten right back up from guys with wrestling at the level of Koscheck and Fitch. And let's be realistic, Shields isn't invincible on the ground either considering Mayhem was about 5 seconds from putting him to sleep if the bell didn't save him.

    I'm saying GSP by TKO in round 3.
    That fight against mayhem was pathetic on the part of shields he gave lay and pray a whole new meaning. I still don't understand how he got decision on it.
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