Can't sleep

**StepInCross** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 3:58am

Originally Posted by The Deliverator

heart rate elevated

This.

I'll try not training for a few days. See what happens.

**StepInCross** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 8:37am

I just noticed that I've tripled the amount of food I'm eating. I eat about 4 cups of rice, 2 eggs and 2 hotdogs per meal except for breakfast. I guess my metabolism went up a few gears.

**The Deliverator** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 10:09am

Originally Posted by StepInCross

I just noticed that I've tripled the amount of food I'm eating. I eat about 4 cups of rice, 2 eggs and 2 hotdogs per meal except for breakfast. I guess my metabolism went up a few gears.

Yeah you are probably just training a bit too hard. Just dial it back a bit and try to put in at least 1 or even 2 days per week where you totally rest or at least do just a very light workout. Huge appetite increase is definitely another sign of upping the training load a bit too fast.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 10:17am

Originally Posted by StepInCross

Its bearable so I've never actually tried to get help.

Its less I want to kill myself or I'm drowning in angst and pain and more I feel numb and why aren't I happy? Unlike in the movies, I'm not actually sad. Sadness is more of an inevitability thanks to how hard it is to actually be happy.

I wake up sometimes and lie still for hours in my bed unable to move and sometimes I go through the day and no depression. Anger usually does the trick. I focus on something that makes me really mad and sometimes punch the wall untill the pain and adrenaline override the numb feeling.

GO GET HELP. Self medication is a no no and so is self mental diagnosis. When you get depressed you focus on something to make you angry? Then you resort to violence, and self infliction of pain, to medicate yourself? Go get under a doctor's care before you do something more violent to yourself or others.

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 5:38pm

Overtraining will certainly play a part. This will eat into your sense of well-being. It will increase your STRESS hormones and you will be in a spiral. You are probably not suffering from Depression in the medical sense as there are criteria which apply.

Speak to your Family Doctor (GP in UK) and explain your experience to-date. Take their advice...SERIOUSLY.

Take some downtime. Something Slooowwwww....fishing, chess, drawing, painting, Meditation (Mindfulness).

Don't leave it. Good Luck.

**StepInCross** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 10:41pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

GO GET HELP. Self medication is a no no and so is self mental diagnosis. When you get depressed you focus on something to make you angry? Then you resort to violence, and self infliction of pain, to medicate yourself? Go get under a doctor's care before you do something more violent to yourself or others.

Pfft. I've had irrational thougts of suicide since I was a kid and I'm still alive becuase thats just what they are, irrational thoughts. I've also been diagnosed with autism as a kid and now depression?!

Who the **** will believe that ****?

Besides, I'm too awesome to kill myself.

@the Delivarator

Thanks for the advice. Greatly appreciated. I slept like a baby last night.

**Sang** · Posted On: 4/15/2011 11:04pm

You are Autistic too? Why the **** are you not seeing someone who can help you?

I have an autistic family member, if you are anything like him (and from reading your posts, you sure are) you have no clue how destructive your "irrational thoughts" are to yourself and those around you.

Get it through your thick skull that seeking help is a good move.

**Travis17** · Posted On: 4/17/2011 3:09am

Originally Posted by Sang

If you train late night it could be the endorphin release keeping you awake, I have trouble getting to sleep before 11 if i train at 8.

Is there any way to counter this so it doesn't take 3+ hours after training to go to sleep? Maybe a sleeping pill or something?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 4/17/2011 3:14am

Originally Posted by StepInCross

Pfft. I've had irrational thougts of suicide since I was a kid and I'm still alive becuase thats just what they are, irrational thoughts. I've also been diagnosed with autism as a kid and now depression?!

"I've dealt with it all my life, I know what I am doing." Yep, pretty much the reaction I expected.

Who the **** will believe that ****?

A doctor not some idiot that thinks he knows wtf he is talking about.

Besides, I'm too awesome to kill myself.

Lack of sleep leads to delusions.

**StepInCross** · Posted On: 4/17/2011 7:15am

Simply put depression and autism are mental ilnesses. A mental illness by definition is anything that interferes with daily life in a negative way. In my case, the negative effects are not as severe as one would think. In fact, I love some of the things that depression does.

Depression puts things in perspective. Things a normal person would just ignore, I understand and can take. For example, people like to think they will not die and that life is special in both an emotional and objective way but thanks to my depression I acknowledge the fact that my life has no objective meaning and any meanig I put into it is arbitrary and made up. There are lots other smaller things that my ilness helps me with so until I find the cons outweigh the benefits, I will not seek help.

Feel free to point out flaws in my logic if you will. It woud be appreciated.

Also, why the hell do I feel more tired during rest days than I do when I'm working out. Its weird.