Lets get rid of bad martial art schools

**Res Judicata** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 8:39am

Originally Posted by CrackFox

You don't need government regulation to open a barber shop either. Somebody should do something about all the terrible hair cuts people are getting.

Listen, regulation is unnecessary, and would more than likely just get in the way. All you can do is try to make sure consumers are informed about what they're getting. If people want to go to belt factory schools that's fine, as long as they're not being conned about what they're doing.

Also OP, you need to try muay Thai, or some other style that doesn't have belts, to get some perspective.

Most or all states have barber/beautician licenses. I'm not saying they should, but they do.

**Vieux Normand** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 8:41am

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

This topic is pretty old, but it gives me a chance to bring up one of my many hobby horses - French Judo.

The government regulates Judo in France and as a result the quality of instruction and Judo education is phenomenal. Even recreational 1st dans from provincial clubs have really nice, clean, technical Judo and they can throwdown too.

I don't believe every government could do what the French have with Judo, however, if government regulation could get a country's standard of Judo to even half or three quarters of that of the French, well the world would be a whole load more awesome.

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Oh, uh, lemme guess: surrender-waza and capitulation-nage? Wow.

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**CrackFox** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 8:49am

Originally Posted by Res Judicata

Most or all states have barber/beautician licenses. I'm not saying they should, but they do.

That's mental! Do you guys generally have better hair cuts than we do over this side of the pond?

**Res Judicata** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 8:53am

Originally Posted by CrackFox

That's mental! Do you guys generally have better hair cuts than we do over this side of the pond?

It's a racket to collect money for the state like most licensing systems. Theoretically, it's so they have sanitation training and don't burn people with nasty chemicals, etc.

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 7/29/2011 11:37am

The problem with this is picking some official at the licensing bureau and making them actually evaluate someone or at least verify their qualifications with governing bodies to qualify for a license. Otherwise you just fill out some paperwork, fax a copy of your black belt certificate, and pay 20$ or whatever and you're gold.
That process would have stopped exactly zero of the frauds we've dealt with. I don't think we've ever found one that didn't have a fake or semi-fake black belt cert.

**sandythigirl** · Posted On: 8/07/2011 10:55am

Iv heard about stuff like this before. A Kung Fu master told me that he knew a 1st dan black belt running his own school but in order to test students he would have to have his master there which was pricey for the students.It does not matter where you go you will find bad instructors everywhere. I may be new to this site but I will tell you that there are bad instructors on here as well as many fakes.