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    Fundamentals of Judo – Dynamic DelayTM

    Before I start, I would like to say this has been one of most difficult of these articles to write. This is because it’s discussing a concept that is so broad in its application and so varied that trying to codify it into a single ‘doctrine’ or conceptual framework has proved very difficult. One of the main difficulties, for me, was coming up with a descriptively useful yet simultaneously concise definition of dynamic delay. The other was finding examples that showed the dynamic delay principle in isolation and not to open up to many rabbit holes the discussion or post to disappear down. I think and I hope, that I have managed to achieve that balancing act.


    So without further ado, the fundamental Judo skill – Dynamic delayTM


    Dynamic delay is the process of controlled deceleration and subsequent acceleration by tori relative to uke’s constant motion.
    It is easy for us to observe gradual and or obvious deceleration and acceleration, a car braking, Usain Bolt flying out of the blocks etc... However, what is harder for us to observe is sudden and momentary deceleration and acceleration and indeed one being a consequence of the other.



    When seeking to explain and illustrate this principle it occurred to me that some of the clearest and most accessible examples come from outside the world of Judo and occur in team sports such as Rugby. In Judo often the action is concealed by the clothing of the two players and the myriad of minute adjustments and split second action. However, in a sport such as rugby with a lone figure in a wide open space with a clear view of the uncovered legs and feet it becomes more obvious.



    The most famous example of dynamic delay in team sports, to an Englishman, is rugby player Jason Robinson. Robinson has a truly exceptional life story a former alcoholic who found God and phenomenal form on the pitch. Who went on to cover himself in glory representing his county, succeed in both codes of Rugby and be blessed with a unique a special privileged amongst sportsmen – scoring the winning try in the final minutes of his last ever match for his club. However, it was his mastery of dynamic delay that is of interest to us today.


    Here is some footage of Robinson using the principle of dynamic delay to slice through the French backline and score a phenomenal try from the set-piece, apologies to those reading from France.





    What is useful to us from this footage, apart from the excellence of English rugby in comparison to France... Is that Robinson accelerates after catching the ball and then spotting the opportunity (debana?) in an opening of the French line very rapidly decelerates to a stand-still and re-accelerates to sprinting speed in a matter of fractions of a second. By his rapid deceleration and acceleration Robinson completely out manoeuvres the French defence whose speed, in tracking across the field, remains constant.



    I’m sure those of you familiar with Football, Hockey, American football etc... can think of similar examples from those sports. And please do so, if it helps you wrap your head around the concept. As, I believe, presented as a purely Judo phenomenon devoid of kinesiological context makes it harder rather than easier to understand.


    So now if we return to my earlier definition of dynamic delay as:


    “The process of controlled deceleration and subsequent acceleration by tori relative to uke’s constant motion.”


    And apply that to the Robinson video where Robinson is tori and the French defence uke. Then I think we can start to make some sense of the issue at hand.


    Let’s examine this video of the dynamic delay being applied to Okuri ashi barai.


    Dynamic delay Okuri ashi barai




    Tori and uke start moving in tandem, level with one another.




    Tori then decelerates and delays his own movement, allowing uke’s advancing foot to continue, whilst tori’s feet remain level with uke’s trailing foot





    Uke’s advanced foot touches the mat and Tori then accelerates into his advancing step whilst uke’s speed of motion remains constant





    This dynamic delay and subsequent acceleration by tori, whilst uke’s speed of motion remained constant combines with the accelerated and exaggerated step by tori. The result is that there is potential energy loaded into tori’s trailing foot and it can accelerate much faster than uke’s trailing foot.





    Tori’s foot, travelling faster than uke’s, makes contact with uke’s foot accelerating uke’s motion at a rate he is not prepared for.





    Uke’s weight transfer process is disrupted by tori accelerating the trailing foot to a speed uke is unprepared for. Combined with a proportionate and appropriate kuzushi action tori disrupts uke’s weight transfer process in a way that is irrevocable and uke is thrown clean off their feet.




    As regular readers will know I don’t favour this method of practicing Okuri ashi barai, precisely because it’s much harder for tori to control the dynamic delay process. It requires a very competent and intelligent uke to be fully accessible. However, if you apply the principles outlined in this post to my preferred method of Okuri ashi barai you will find they both rely on dynamic delay.


    Dynamic delay is, however, not purely applicable to ashiwaza although that is where most people encounter it and it where most people struggle with it.



    Dynamic delay for Tai otoshi




    I have had to slow this video down twice as much as normal because Adams is just so fast.


    Adams starts moving his uke





    Adams then begins his dynamic delay sequence, he advances his left foot with an exaggerated forward step and visibly slows relative to his uke





    Adams then brings his trailing right foot to his advanced left foot in a tsugi ashi type motion, coming soon on the blog, visibly slowing and pausing in a manner reminiscent of Robinson.




    Adams then uses the impetus from the tsugi ashi action accelerates his left foot into position, whilst uke’s rate of motion remains constant.




    Adams accelerates further as his trailing right foot advances to the point of the triangle uke’s rate of motion remains constant.




    His trailing foot then spins his left into position and the advanced right foot shoots across for the Tai otoshi, accompanied by a strong, accomplished kuzushi action.





    And the perfect ippon.




    I have include two pieces of footage of Adams applying the dynamic delay principle to Tai otoshi after having dissected the first I will just leave a series of screen grabs for the second. I call this method of applying dynamic delay the stutter step, the reason should be obvious. This is a very common way of applying it for major forward throws on a retreating uke and can be used for the whole gamut of techniques – Uchi mata, Seoi nage, Harai goshi etc...














    Dynamic delay for O uchi gari



    There’s a slight miscommunication between Katanishi and his uke so we pick up the action with that miscommunication removed.
    Katanishi advances with his left then suddenly decelerates allowing uke to continue retreating with his left despite Katanishi not advancing with his left.






    He then advances with his right, cross stepping and placing it in front of uke’s right which is commencing its retreat.



    Uke then continues his retreat whilst tori’s advanced right foot remains constant and tori’s trailing left foot accelerates to a position behind the right.




    Tori then accelerates his advanced right foot to catch uke’s left foot as it is fully weighted.




    Ippon




    Seen from another angle







    Hopefully now you have a fully grasp of the process of dynamic delay, which I have defined as best I can as:

    The process of controlled deceleration and subsequent acceleration by tori relative to uke’s constant motion.


    I’ll leave you with an example of dynamic delay in action, not included in this piece to show the wide applicability of the principle. It is important to remember the definition and that this is a principle there is no one set method of achieving dynamic delay and all throws, players and situations can have their own methods.







    Hope this has been of use to you and as always comments, questions and critiques are welcome.
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    Thank you so many buckets. So, so many. I don't even know how long I've been reading.
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    Lol, not sure what buckets have to do with anything, but thanks. Glad you found the post useful.
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    We actually worked on this last night at my dojo, when we were practising Okuri-Ashi-Barai. And my training partner made the same comments to me.
    But this is very well laid out and explained so it makes some more sense now.

    Cheers.
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    Great article. Thank you for doing this and laying it out in such a clear and useful format.
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    i'll work on developing 3 modes now: 1) my normal speed - turtle, 2) slowed down - geriatric turtle and 3) sped up - turtle on crack

    hopefully when i slow down to geriatric turtle mode momentarily, uke will relax as they get concerned about my health, then crackhead turtle will kick in and throw them *wham*!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidi View Post
    We actually worked on this last night at my dojo, when we were practising Okuri-Ashi-Barai. And my training partner made the same comments to me.
    But this is very well laid out and explained so it makes some more sense now.

    Cheers.
    Seeing as you worked on this throw and then read the article.

    Was this concept explained at all in depth or was it alluded to i.e 'let him get ahead of you' type advice.

    If it was engaged and explained how did they do it?

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    Does this concept make sense?

    How useful to understanding it was the Jason Robinson video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    Was this concept explained at all in depth or was it alluded to i.e 'let him get ahead of you' type advice.
    Basically this.
    But I do remember from last time we practised Okuri-Ashi-Barai, where my training partner told me to slow down and speed up. But there was never any serious detailed explanation, just more trial and error through Uchi-Komi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post






    Here is some footage of Robinson using the principle of dynamic delay to slice through the French backline and score a phenomenal try from the set-piece, apologies to those reading from France.





    What is useful to us from this footage, apart from the excellence of English rugby in comparison to France... Is that Robinson accelerates after catching the ball and then spotting the opportunity (debana?) in an opening of the French line very rapidly decelerates to a stand-still and re-accelerates to sprinting speed in a matter of fractions of a second. By his rapid deceleration and acceleration Robinson completely out manoeuvres the French defence whose speed, in tracking across the field, remains constant.
    really? looks to me he made them indecsive by faking left, right, left
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindz View Post
    really? looks to me he made them indecsive by faking left, right, left
    Jah but in the process he rapidly decelerates and accelerates. If you watch closely you can see he actually has both feet of the ground and changes direction in mid air. Crazy.
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