Why is Wing Chun hated here?

**Tom Kagan** · Posted On: 6/26/2011 11:35pm

Originally Posted by Cullion

Yeah, there probably are. Sometimes a big enough difference in size or natural athleticism is enough.

Most athletically inclined people do not gravitate towards the style - certainly not anymore. So, if you're going to chalk things up to athleticism, what does this say about, say, wrestling?

**Rzero** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 3:51pm

My Krav school has rented some space to some Ving Tsunners. Well they were training today at the same time we were and what I saw didnt impress me; an hour of patticake, with a 5 minute break.

The gentle patter of hands contrasted sharply with the grunts of suffering coming our side.

Doesnt mean I hate teh Chun (or that my krav is teh deadly).

But going by my very short observation of it I'd say the criticism is warranted.

Perhaps I should take a class just to see if its that bad. Then again, the last time I did that I ended up a krav-tard. :)

**Feryk** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 4:39pm

Originally Posted by Rzero

My Krav school has rented some space to some Ving Tsunners. Well they were training today at the same time we were and what I saw didnt impress me; an hour of patticake, with a 5 minute break.

The gentle patter of hands contrasted sharply with the grunts of suffering coming our side.

Doesnt mean I hate teh Chun (or that my krav is teh deadly).

But going by my very short observation of it I'd say the criticism is warranted.

Perhaps I should take a class just to see if its that bad. Then again, the last time I did that I ended up a krav-tard. :)

Ask them if they spar. Their answer will tell you everything you need to know.

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 5:26pm

The following is a story I'm not proud about -- but it happened.

My mother-in-law has a flower shop next door to a Wing Chun school. My wife had to work there one day, and I was bored out of my skull, so I decided to pay a drop-in fee to attend a class.

Now, the sifu wasn't present -- he had to attend to a Chinese New Year event. Therefore, he had his assistant running the class instead. The students there didn't realize I used to be a student at a different location, nor did they know I began learning boxing.

The assistant kept saying insane things during the class -- some things that would genuinely get kids in the class hurt if they tried any of it out. One of them was, "Chi sao completely nullifies your opponent's punches."

So I had to speak up. "What if his punches are faster than your chi sao?"

"That would never happen," I was told, "Chi sao is always faster than punches".

Amused, I asked him to demonstrate on me. I jabbed at him with half speed and little power, and tapped his chest. Just as I tapped his chest, he did a little fancy chi sao movement -- but I still tapped his chest.

"See?" he stated, "Your pathetic punches mean nothing against chi sao."

"But I touched your chest!" I replied.

"Doesn't matter," the assistant said, "In a real fight chi sao would win."

Clearly, he didn't appreciate my attempt to not injure him -- and admittedly I thought his presumptuousness was insulting. So, I asked to try one more time.

"Sure, why not?" he laughed.

This time, I put some actual power in my jab. Just as I was about to hit his chest, he successfully used his chi sao to move my fist away... and downwards toward his stomach.

He doubled down coughing and couldn't speak for five minutes. I began feeling a twinge of regret as I stood him up on a chair -- then grabbed him a cup of water. When he finally was able to talk, he asked me very calmly to leave the premises.

I was all to happy to do it, and I haven't appeared near their storefront since.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 6:19pm

You may not be proud of it, but im proud of you.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 6:24pm

He was squared up with you wasn't he?

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 6:53pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

He was squared up with you wasn't he?

Yep. He was standing pigeon-toed in front of me, implanted in his spot. He made no attempt to move. He was so smug.

Originally Posted by The Juggernoob

You may not be proud of it, but im proud of you.

Unfortunately, I created some bad blood between the Wing Chun school and my mother-in-law's business. I've called to apologize a few times, but it hasn't made a difference.

**The Juggernoob** · Posted On: 7/07/2011 6:57pm

Originally Posted by atomicpoet

Unfortunately, I created some bad blood between the Wing Chun school and my mother-in-law's business. I've called to apologize a few times, but it hasn't made a difference.

Bad blood. They give her catty looks? At least you know she'll be able to kick their assess.