Why is Wing Chun hated here?
Just been going through a few threads here and there, and whenever someone brings up the idea of Wing Chun, they get mocked, put down, or insulted.
I'm just curious to know why that is?
Go through some more because, when we get cross forum traffic Chun, Aikido and Ninja threads suddenly appear.
Most of the popular threads explain why.
If you have read the posts where Wing Chun is mocked, then I am sure you can probably figure out WHY it is mocked. And if not, then just put on your fire retardant p.j.s and wait awhile.
Short Answer: Because most Wing Chun exponents don't spar, claim their techniques are too deadly to spar with, make outrageous claims of effectiveness and refuse to provide any proof, and are generally wankers.
Long Answer: Read every thread that WingchunX2Z has posted and all of my responses to him.
Welcome to Bullshido.
Many posters here train in, or have trained in _wing _un(g). It's not that bringing it up, will bring on flaming, but arguing that it's effective outside of controlled settings (compliant, overly restrictive, or non-resistant training), will certainly provoke counter-arguments and from there, everyone starts calling everyone Hitler, and rapists.
Wing Chun is understood by many to be an antiquated, impractical and more importantly, incomplete art. Training in it is ok, but flamewars start when people claim they have the d3adly.
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All of the above is true.
It's mostly this though.
Originally Posted by Kintanon
A personal anecdote to stir the sauce a bit....
Over the years, a large number of my conversations with other MA folks have tended to diverge into Bruce Lee mythology (their choice, never mine), and I got irritated with that. All too often when I bump into someone who claims to be interested/practicing CMA, it's Chun, and it's because they love Bruce Lee, and they know literally NOTHING of the rich history of CMA outside of Chun.
How many other gong fu arts could these folks name? Typically none. At least I could name Taiji and Bagua back then because I had *gasp* read some gong fu books that didn't have Bruce Lee on the cover.
Their argument went something like this: Since Chun was "Bruce Lee's art", people saw it as the first necessary stepping stone to become like Lee (whatever that meant...since he's been dead for quite a while). These people were typically not aware of just how little time Bruce Lee spent training in traditional Chun.
Even those who are a little more familiar with Lee's larger MA history and had read about the philosophy behind Jeet Kune Do still tended to praise Wing Chun as the greatest of gong fu arts because of Lee. Jeet Kune Do, by extension, became Super Chun. Yes, a Chunner once told me he had "mastered Wing Chun and had moved on to Jeet Kune Do, the next level of Chun".
I could not make this up...
I have a feeling that, if I ever decided to learn some Wing Chun, it would be helpful, but only on top of a solid grounding in basics taught by other arts.
Last edited by W. Rabbit; 4/02/2011 12:02pm at .
As exaggerated as it may sound this is the way Wing Chun guys come off:
We have the cure for cancer
We can walk on water
We invented the submarine
I'd prove it to you but it's too deadly.
There are decent Wing Chun guys out there but apparently those are the ones who refused to drink the cool aide.
I trained in WT for a few months but found it overly complex for the task @ hand. Prefer Latosa Escrima. Just personal thought.
everybody knows that teh r34l is "kool-aid"
Originally Posted by Omega
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