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    Questions about the International Martial Arts Federation and Shudokan Martial Arts

    Are these legit organizations or just bullshido?

    I have a friend who asked me to help him find a reputable school in his area and one of the Judo schools I found has an instructor who claims a 6th Dan in the Shudokan Martial Arts Association and a 3rd Dan in the International Martial Arts Federation.

    I'm a Judo guy and I know all about the USJA/USJF/USJI, but I've never heard of these organizations?

    What's up with that??
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    Where is he located? Each country has their own orgs and maybe, with a location, one of the international Judokas can help. I don't know about those, but there have been some weirdly name orgs with legitimate teachers that compete.
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    I believe the IMAF are legit and that although not an NGB their rank is considered legit. If its this this IMAF: http://www.imaf.com/

    They're the only organisation which is entitled to award the titles like hanshi etc... to people, for Judo, under Japanese law and Judo convention.

    Don't know about the SMAA though and given the massive disparity in grade between the legit IMAF grade and the unkown quality SMAA grade, then I guess you could draw your own conclusions.
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    So you could roll into a Judo tournament with IMAF rank and there'd be no worries?
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    Guess that would depend on your association. I don't think they are linked in anyway to the IJF or AJJF so I think it unlikely there would be automatic procedures, but individual asociations might have recognition agreements. The IMAF is sanctioned by the Japanese government to issue Judo rank and used to be able to put the imperial seal on their rank awards, not sure if they can anymore.

    However, I understand that they teach Judo as a 'budo', what exactly that means apart from a greater concentration on kata than you would find in these 'combat Judo' clubs that seem popular in the US I don't really know.

    All I can find about their ranking requirements is this:
    1st Dan –Shodan
    Individuals who have passed an examination, and successfully completed the course requirements as set by each division. Older than 15 years of age when promoted to 1st Kyu.
    2nd Dan –Nidan
    Same as above. More than a year and a half after promotion to shodan(1st Dan).
    3rd Dan –Sandan
    Same as above. More than two years after promotion to nidan(2nd Dan).
    http://www.imaf.com/branch-regulations.pdf

    Of course there's always the acid test of getting on the mat with them and seeing them do Judo.

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