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  1. W. Rabbit is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2groggy View Post
    why?

    I mean is this a conscious choice to drink more water or a symptom of a deeper cause?
    It's true excessive thirst during exercise is one of the signs of an overheated hypothalamus gland. If you sweat too much fluid too quickly or overexercise and build up enough heat, you can hit heat exhaustion and eventually heat stroke. Other symptoms can include dizziness, chills, cold skin, headache, nausea, sudden weakness, and profuse sweating.

    Drinking too much water during exercise can be just as bad as drinking too little, or a sign your body is trying to warn you to slow down. If you start getting urges to consume vast amounts of water it's a good sign your body is too hot.

    I've experienced this within the last 12 months....not pleasant.
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    Christ, Wrabbit, you're going to freak Takeshi out!

    Actually, I was going to try freak him out about Diabetes. Especially the potential long term effects like erectile disfunction. And there are probably a dozen other equally unlikely causes with equally nasty results. But that's just my warped sense of humour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2groggy View Post
    Christ, Wrabbit, you're going to freak Takeshi out!

    Actually, I was going to try freak him out about Diabetes. Especially the potential long term effects like erectile disfunction. And there are probably a dozen other equally unlikely causes with equally nasty results. But that's just my warped sense of humour.
    hahaha, nice try but I for sure do not have Diabetes >:)
    I was drinking alot of water though (not through out the exercise) because I thought It would help me because I love training hard. and I used to have a bad habit where I would rarely drink water AND work out (I just wasn't thinking about water, but I was drinking alot juice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    It's true excessive thirst during exercise is one of the signs of an overheated hypothalamus gland. If you sweat too much fluid too quickly or overexercise and build up enough heat, you can hit heat exhaustion and eventually heat stroke. Other symptoms can include dizziness, chills, cold skin, headache, nausea, sudden weakness, and profuse sweating.

    Drinking too much water during exercise can be just as bad as drinking too little, or a sign your body is trying to warn you to slow down. If you start getting urges to consume vast amounts of water it's a good sign your body is too hot.

    I've experienced this within the last 12 months....not pleasant.

    One last question, is it normal to get tired and sweat really fast like the first 7 minutes of training after a couple of days of couch potatoing? we did do a pretty pushing warm up.
    All this talk about diabetes and heart stroke is scary -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeshi View Post
    One last question, is it normal to get tired and sweat really fast like the first 7 minutes of training after a couple of days of couch potatoing? we did do a pretty pushing warm up.
    All this talk about diabetes and heart stroke is scary -.-
    I believe so. If you're not conditioned properly for a high energy cardio workout you'll likely not regulate properly and overheat quickly, especially if it is warm where you train and you're not used the climate. As long as you can exchange heat with cooler air, your body is supposed to regulate it's temperature properly, but when it can't get rid of heat quickly enough, the symptoms of heat exhaustion can kick in pretty fast (easily within 10m) and that's the "yellow zone". You have to know the signs, a Google search can give you all kinds of athletic advice.

    Avoiding heat exhaustion/stroke is a serious consideration for any athletic training. Even swimmers can die of heat stroke, like that boy who died last year in the international swimming tournament. The water was too warm for him to properly vent his body heat, and he went into shock and died.
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    I'm mostly just teasing about the type I diabetes, unless the abnormal thirst goes along with frequent urination (for the kidneys to expel the sugar) and unexplained weight loss.

    I know nothing about type II diabetes. It is a totally different disease.
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    It seems they have caught me :'( ah well, thanks for the information
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    The advice in this thread is atrocious. Fortunately, it's not harmful.

    Short answer: Don't worry about how salty your sweat may taste.

    Long answer: Sodium, being one of the body's electrolytes, is maintained by the body very strictly by the body in a narrow range. You don't get cramps when electrolytes start to become out of balance - you start to die quickly! Nature, as a consequence, makes it next to impossible under most conditions unless you are stupid enough to take up competitive ultramarathoning.

    The reason why your sweat tastes salty at all is because your diet has too much sodium in it in the first place. You are technically overworking one of the major ways the body has to get rid of excess sodium.

    It's next to impossible for a person not to have a sufficient dietary intake of sodium.

    Cramping is caused by dehydration and, oddly enough, hyperhydration.

    Drinking "a lot of water" is probably not a lot of water unless you exceed two gallons a day - which would make most people vomit under normal circumstances.

    The purpose of the sodium added to hydration drinks such as gatorade is to increase the body's uptake of water without causing nausea. Talk of electrolyes is mostly marketing.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan View Post
    You don't get cramps when electrolytes start to become out of balance - you start to die quickly! Nature, as a consequence, makes it next to impossible under most conditions unless you are stupid enough to take up competitive ultramarathoning.
    I won't argue with your statements Tom, you obviously know your stuff, except I'd disagree that nature made it "next to impossible under most conditions"...heat exhaustion is a lot more common than that in athletics of all kinds. Hell, people die from heat exhaustion all over the world when they can't get access to enough water to sweat and stay cool and keep their hypothalamus glands at the proper temp., so I'd say nature made it pretty damn easy to die from it. :)

    For martial artists, training hard in a poorly ventilated room that gets too hot can lead to heat exhaustion pretty easily, but I agree with you you'll die from heat stroke well before your electrolytes are gone.

    Once you've overheated your hypothalamus, you're in big trouble. I am no ultramarathoner but I have experienced this situation....it is a WTF moment.

    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/166320-overview
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