Thread: Shou Shu; any redeeming factors?
7/23/2012 10:54pm, #341
- Join Date
- Mar 2009
7/23/2012 10:54pm, #342
7/23/2012 10:58pm, #343
7/23/2012 11:03pm, #344
- Join Date
- Jun 2012
BM....i was you 8 years ago when I first ..i thank my lucky stars every day..stumbled onto this site. The difference was that I actually read what the fine people here wrote, viewed the videos, read the descriptions of aliveness, opened my mind and violla quickly abandoned my mcdojo krav maga for bjj. It's one thing to get fit, learn how to throw a punch or kick, and learn prescripted moves. That isn't a bad thing. But The bottom line is that you never know how your opponent will react IF you manage to hit him.
Im not knocking krav btw..im knocking the way it was taught in the school i went to. Groin kick..etc. I got my balls squashed just last week, yet still kept rolling. Adrenaline is a funny thing.
These people are REALLY trying to help you and will be very forgiving when you reach your own moment of enlightenment.
Until then...please keep up the hip bone is connected to the thighbone stuff, because it is very entertaining to read.
7/23/2012 11:11pm, #345
Last edited by cualltaigh; 7/23/2012 11:14pm at .Dum spiro, spero.
Tada gan iarracht.
7/23/2012 11:12pm, #346Beginners MindGuest
On the other hand, I don't see my style - generally speaking, with some exceptions - falling prey to these faults. We definitely have our problems and weaknesses, but I don't see those as fatal flaws. Any flaws we do have, I'm confident I can personally overcome by cross training in ground fighting, competitions, and sparring with non-Shou Shu people.
7/23/2012 11:19pm, #347
I'm in agreement with anti-Mcdojoism. I'm in agreement with aliveness. I'm in agreement with cross training in ground fighting. I'm in agreement with fighting resistant opponents in sparring situations as opposed to heavy emphasis on non-resisting opponents, emphasis on forms, emphasis on rote drills, etc.
On the other hand, I don't see my style - generally speaking, with some exceptions - falling prey to these faults. We definitely have our problems and weaknesses, but I don't see those as fatal flaws.
Any flaws we do have, I'm confident I can personally overcome by cross training in ground fighting, competitions, and sparring with non-Shou Shu people.GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
7/23/2012 11:29pm, #348Beginners MindGuest
Nerve clusters? Vital organs? We are talking about areas of the forarms, biceps, ribs, plexus, throat, neck, spine, groin, eyes, ears, nose... It's not a huge stretch. I'm not talking about "Hitting ten vital points so that their heart stops and their head explodes." I'm talking about delivering a quick punch to the plexus, kidney, neck, etc.
With regards to bone alignment, etc, I assumed incorrectly that was discussed in all martial arts. You aren't thinking about this crap when throwing a punch or a kick, you just throw the kick when you see an opening, then deliver an elbow if there is another opening, etc. You train the posture to forget the posture.
With regards to the boxing analogy, choose any sport you want. My point is that drilling is a legitimate way to *start* the process of building proper technique, regardless of the discipline. Shou shu is no different. In a real situation, you may only get the chance to deliver a block and a strike, but if more is open.. you will automatically fill that gap appropriately without thinking about it. Assuming, of course, you have trained your drills, your forms, your sparring, and so on, and that random thoughts in your mind like "Should i step to a horse or a hard bow? Should I knee or do a punch?" Do not pop up and create a timing gap.
Advancing daggers is anything but crunchy. You make it sound like drilling, at all, is pointless. I think that is going too far. Our drills - which we call techniques - are pretty sexy.
Last edited by Beginners Mind; 7/23/2012 11:33pm at .
7/23/2012 11:37pm, #349Beginners MindGuest
7/23/2012 11:38pm, #350