Thread: Grappling and Swords
3/06/2011 9:51pm, #11
There's this example of no-grip footsweeps in kendo -
The match starts at 3.00. My impression is that is was at least partially staged for the camera, especially the final disarm and thrust.
It's been a while since I looked into longsword fencing, but I can't recall too many direct analogs to ashiwaza in the historical European longsword sources, unless we count things like the occasional stamping kick to the opponent's lead knee from the bind.Check out the Bullshido.net Western Martial Arts Forum for all things Western, martial and arty.
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3/06/2011 11:57pm, #12
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This is pretty much my sentiment.
My experience with foot sweeps in fencing have led me to believe that they are almost always inferior methods of dropping people. Foot sweeps tend to work well on people who stand somewhat stiffly, have their feet close to each other, and\or are standing horizontally. So if you are in the bind and you both wind up into the Kron, this often leads to people having horizontal foot positions or at least non-deep stances, and thus this is a good time to foot sweep (additionally you have contact with the upper body so you can push as you sweep). However if two people are in the bind and have deep Waage stances the foot sweep is rarely effective, and it is inferior to throws like the double-leg takedown and hip throws.
3/07/2011 9:01am, #13
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Do he dynamics of sword fighting make this more difficult quite possibly, I don't know enough about sword fighting to say definitively.
There tend to be two kinds of "Bind," I've found. The first is people who really aren't familiar with the Bind and don't have a clue what to do. This ends up looking very classic hollywood where they lock up each others blades, settle their weight, and try to turn it into a strength contest. In this case any sort of drawing technique (pulling the opponent's push) can bring the opponent forward and into a trip or throw. For instance (just pulling it out of the air), if you're right handed and enter a bind you can "parry"/force to your outside (right), turning to your right, grasping (or not) with your left hand and do things like modified Tai Otoshi or Uchi Mata. Of course modified O/Ko Uchi Gari and that class are all available as well.
The second (general) kind of Bind is done by people who have a clue. These folks are going to be much more "fluid" in the bind. They'll look for opportunities to unbind, wind, trip/throw, or use offhand striking (or potentially secondary weapons). All bets are off with these guys. :)
Peace favor your sword,
3/07/2011 10:45am, #14
For foot sweeps without much gripping you can look for ideas into shotokan karate sparring .