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  1. Phrost is offline
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    Screw Retiring - Should Fedor Drop to 205?

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    Yes, we all know by now that Fedor got mauled like he was starring in a real life Jack Links commercial. (And if you didn't know, and we're somehow spoiling it for you almost 24 hours later, you're probably a crappy MMA fan anyway and we're not concerned with your feelings).

    Shortly after the fight was stopped, the ring interviewer in his stupid Big-League-Chew-Grape tie tried to force a heartfelt moment onto Showtime's subscribers by asking the question (and we're paraphrasing here):

    "So Fedor, you've lost twice now, how about retiring you talentless piece of garbage... seriously, isn't it time to go home and break some knees for the Russian Mob or something instead?"

    ("Paraphrasing" might be a bit strong, we'll admit.)

    But instead, what he should have been asking is this:

    So Fedor, it seems that the ranks of the Heavyweight division are filling up with highly talented fighters, many of which have to cut weight to make it under the limit, shouldn't you consider a drop to 205?"

    Joe Rogan, who doesn't wear stupid bubble gum-colored neckties, would have asked that question. And then he would have prowled the Internet the next day looking for people to triangle choke from the rubber guard for posting on Reddit or Sherdog or whatever, that it was a question as stupid as a purple tie. And then he and Eddie Bravo would have gone tear-assing through the desert in a vintage convertible, high on peyote or mushrooms or guano.

    Anyway, here's the point: Fedor is packing extra pounds he doesn't need. Which is fine, if you're a normal human being, or a Heavyweight fighter 5 years ago. But that's not the case today, as hypothetical Joe Rogan hypothetically pointed out. A 230 lb. fighter is too small for the Heavyweight division now, and if he's got the spare pounds to lose, why not drop down and pound heads in a lighter division?

    I can't speak for Fedor's diet program, but when you've got 265 lb. dudes showing up to the cage ripped like they're going to an IFBB competition and you're sporting a bit of a stomach hanging over your bicycle fight shorts and 30 lbs. fewer than that, well... run-on sentences aside, a man's gotta make some decisions.

    But retire? **** that noise.
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    Much agreed!
    It was only a matter of time that the heavyweights were going to catch their skill level up to their size. Fedor is undersized for this division. It would be a shame for Fedor to hang it up at this point. As for Arlovski, WTF? It saddens me to see a guy as good as he was completely out of his element and league now. It is as if he shows up for the paycheck, not the fight.
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    In a perfect world yes, but I doubt he will.

    He always struck me as an all or nothing guy. Dropping down would be too much like conceding defeat.
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    He always struck me as an all or nothing guy. Dropping down would be too much like conceding defeat.
    This. Dropping down a weight class would be an admission that he can't hang with the big boys anymore (which, of course, is the case). I predict retirement.
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    I would like to see him come back at 205. I don't think its going to happen.
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    na, he wont do it. its a russian thing. if he cant still hang with the big boys he wont hang at all.
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    Agreed. He has been eluding to retirement for a while now. And all that talk of him jumping into politics. I think he has been standing by the door for a while, and is finally getting nudged out. I would love to see him fight at 205lbs. It would be shocking to see him without the gut!

    I also think they should split up the heavyweight class. 205-265. ****, that's a big damn difference.
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    I think that he's a big enough draw for for SF that they allow him to fight catchweight matches with people around his weight to create entertaining and winnable matches. I dont think Fedor would. I think that his pride wont let him. Regarding what his manager said about Fedor talking about retiring just because he was upset; maybe its just a misunderstanding about Russian stoicism and culture, but he didn't seem that upset. He seemed rueful and resigned.
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    He's CroCop.

    That should be enough for most people. But in case it's not, what I mean is this. He's done and will never beat anyone in the top ten again. He may still beat some lower tier guys, but that's it. If he keeps fighting, even at 205 (though we all know he will never drop weight), it will just be one story after another of, "I am training harder than I have in a long time! The old CroCop... I mean, Fedor is back!" Followed by another loss.

    This should in no way tarnish his awesome legacy, by the way. He has beaten some top guys and gone on a run which, especially in mma, is amazing. What may tarnish his legacy a bit, though, is that I could easily see him not retiring and just fighting cans for a couple more years.
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    yeah he really doesnt wanna finish his career the way crocop has. its sad.
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