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    Quote Originally Posted by cejames View Post
    ... but then again I don't know **** anyway...
    Then SHUT THE **** UP!
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    You have two accounts registered to this IP address. This is a violation of our Terms of Service. One of the accounts will be banned. Creating more accounts after this will result in a permaban.

    Which account would you like to remain active, cejames or charlesj?
    You failed to respond to my post cejames. I banned the charles j account.

    Once again, creating any further duplicate accounts will result in a permaban from the site.

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    there is also timing to consider....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdempsey View Post
    there is also timing to consider....
    Not really, I'd say timing plays a large part on the effect your punch has on your opponent but not on the power behind the punch itself. A powerfull punch with bad timing might miss or barely graze your opponent but the power behind the punch would still be there. Likewise, a weaker punch with great timing can knock your opponent out, but that still doesn't make the punch itself a power punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    In CLF there's a number of different ways that power is generated for a punch:
    1. Twisting- twisting the waist to incorporate the torso and get more extension.
    2. Stepping- moving the whole body forward in space, and using this to add weight and momentum to the punch, and achieve proper distance
    3. Crunching- using the core muscles to get the best power and body geometry when hitting (think uppercuts).
    4. Sinking- lowering the bodyweight when hitting to be more stable and/or to add more weight into the strike
    5. Tensing- the fighting stance should normally have a minimum of tension, but when striking, brief tension can assist the power. For example, making sure the wrist and fist are solid on impact. Also, breathing out when you hit, which tenses the diaphragm for a moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Dempsey
    the four principal methods of putting the body-weight into fast motion: (a) FALLING STEP, (b) LEG SPRING, (c) SHOULDER WHIRL, (d) UPWARD SURGE.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/247258/Cha...k-Dempsey-1950

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    I'll second this. Read Championship Fighting by Jack Dempsey.

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    just checked it out, looks awesome

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    well said i did get a bit off topic

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    That website OP linked is gold, some great rants there.

    Last edited by W. Rabbit; 3/07/2011 5:58am at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    So this is the article you're talking about:

    http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/Power.htm

    It seems that what he's describing is the components that make up powerful techniques, which is different than "describe how to generate power for a punch". I stand by my answer.
    Erm I meant to say the website OP referenced and Perma dug up.

    http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com

    Gold. A whole page on "shadow dancing", a word he and his wife made up because "ten languages had no words for it". This guy has a rant for everything from Zero Tolerance policies to MA subculture and why "MMA is a religion" and "most of what we learn in all the traditional MAs is crap." (paraphrasing).

    There are many more. You know it's going to be good when he writes this in one of his intro sections:

    In a career filled with controversy, nothing I have ever done has created such extreme responses as this section of the NNSD Web site. I regularly receive e-mails expressing kudos, grateful acknowledgements, encouragement and sincere thanks for what I present here.

    I also receive e-mails expressing hatred, condemnation, personal attacks, insults, accusations about my motives, all levels of threats -- including death threats -- and, in one case, even told "burn in hell." - http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/MAculture.html
    gasp!
    Last edited by W. Rabbit; 3/07/2011 12:49pm at . Reason: Being told to burn in hell is worse than a death threat? Really?

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