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    Gezere, can you point us to any videos on the internet that show the "good Krav Maga"? I have never seen any examples that weren't garbage. If there are people out there practicing it differently, I'd honestly like to see it.
    I didn't actually watch this video, but this is Sam Sade, MMA fighter and KM instructor, teaching at Bas' place, so if there is good krav maga, it might be in this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F0enZoSVNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeADragon View Post
    I'd have to say yes and no to this one. In America Krav is krap for the most part. BUT Krav Maga is also as I understand it an umbrella term like kung fu. Krav also covers Kapap and Hisardut. The "Krav Maga" classes in the US are basicly as much bullshit as a generic "kung fu" class is in the US. Now if your in Israel you stand a better chance of finding quality instruction but if you look for specific names like Hisardut you stand a good chance of finding a good school in the US. Like many other art it comes down to lineage. Are you training with someone who received their training in Israel and actually knows what he or she is doing or are you training from a karate guy that did a weekend cert so he could call is bullshit Krav Maga? Makes a significant difference.
    I agree with dragon. This comes down to what you learn in the school. Just as there is BAD ASS BJJ, Shotokan,Boxing,HKD,TKD and virtually all styles, there is also SHITTY BJJ,HKD,TKD,MT. It all comes down to where you train that style, and how you train.
    IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    I didn't actually watch this video, but this is Sam Sade, MMA fighter and KM instructor, teaching at Bas' place, so if there is good krav maga, it might be in this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F0enZoSVNA
    This is a video of a dude running his trap.

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    Found some videos of "Dennis Survival Ju Jitsu" aka Hisardut aka Krav Maga (that whole generic term thing again). Reminds me a lot of kyokushin. I cannot say its the best out there but if your training with this level of contact than your certainly not the worse either.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCKxf...feature=fvwrel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCieA...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario915 View Post
    I agree with dragon. This comes down to what you learn in the school. Just as there is BAD ASS BJJ, Shotokan,Boxing,HKD,TKD and virtually all styles, there is also SHITTY BJJ,HKD,TKD,MT. It all comes down to where you train that style, and how you train.
    IMHO
    Unfortunately, I have never seen an example of a Krav Maga school where there is good training. At least, not good training that incorporates the techniques that they teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil View Post
    Gezere, can you point us to any videos on the internet that show the "good Krav Maga"? I have never seen any examples that weren't garbage. If there are people out there practicing it differently, I'd honestly like to see it.
    Itay Gil's group is VERY good.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U6Sm...eature=related

    Amir Perets is good to but unfortunately I thin he unwittingly help contribute to the crappiness of KM in the US. He's probably one of the reasons a lot of KM is just cardio kickboxing because he really believes in being fit to fight.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF0iC1HgHJw
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeADragon View Post
    Found some videos of "Dennis Survival Ju Jitsu" aka Hisardut aka Krav Maga (that whole generic term thing again). Reminds me a lot of kyokushin. I cannot say its the best out there but if your training with this level of contact than your certainly not the worse either.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCKxf...feature=fvwrel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCieA...eature=related
    Like you said, it looks like Kyokushin. Kyokushin done by Krav Maga folks is still Kyokushin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil View Post
    This is a video of a dude running his trap.
    Here he is fighting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTqUgOJiKlc

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    Here is a decent Kapap video. Shows some sparring and drilling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRm-W...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeADragon View Post
    I'd have to say yes and no to this one. In America Krav is krap for the most part. BUT Krav Maga is also as I understand it an umbrella term like kung fu. Krav also covers Kapap and Hisardut. The "Krav Maga" classes in the US are basicly as much bullshit as a generic "kung fu" class is in the US. Now if your in Israel you stand a better chance of finding quality instruction but if you look for specific names like Hisardut you stand a good chance of finding a good school in the US. Like many other art it comes down to lineage. Are you training with someone who received their training in Israel and actually knows what he or she is doing or are you training from a karate guy that did a weekend cert so he could call is bullshit Krav Maga? Makes a significant difference.
    GOD I got into a huge argument on KFM with a woman who got a weekend cert in KM. She was preaching all this BS and I kept telling her she was wrong. She couldn't accept that because she was a badass KM instructor. I told her she didn't learn anything in a weekend would out do my decades of kicking ass. That didn't compute with her.
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