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  1. brihno360 is offline

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    Best translation of Musashi's Book of 5 Rings?

    Hi all,
    Did a little searching but really did not see anything that answers this question:

    Who has done the best Japanese to English translation of Musashi's book of 5 rings?

    By "best" I mean most accurate to original wording.
    Thanks,
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    I read this version:

    http://www.amazon.com/Book-Five-Ring...283155&s=books

    It was recommended to me by a friend who trains in JMA. His Sensei recommended it to him, he is Japanese.

    I thought it was well done, and liked it a lot. Plus the dang thing is only 13 dollars!
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    Wilson's book The Lone Samurai on Musashi's life was excellent, I'm sure his Go Rin No Sho would be equally good. Get the Wilson or the Cleary version. Though the Tokitsu Kenji translation may be good considering his level of expertise & small pile of degrees.

    (oh, & read Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa, it's a massive and truly awesome read)
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    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    the version i read was this one:

    http://www.amazon.com/Book-Five-Ring...8346702&sr=1-7

    was the only one available in my local barnes & noble and came at around 12 - 13 bucks as well. as for the read itself, it was a while ago so gimme a couple of days and i'll get back to you on that if i can find it (im sure its packed away somewhere with all my college textbooks)
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    I am reading The Taiko by Yoshikawa currently. Once it's done I will read Musashi which I own.
    I also read 'The Lone Samurai' a few years ago, I really enjoyed it. Thanks for the replies all!
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    Whatever you do, avoid Kaufman's "interpretation".
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilG View Post
    Whatever you do, avoid Kaufman's "interpretation".
    Hmm, I'll have to check. I think that's the copy I have...

    Curiosity, what are your misgivings over it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilG View Post
    Whatever you do, avoid Kaufman's "interpretation".
    Isn't that the Snake Dojo guy? Yeah, I flipped through that one at Borders awhile back, it's crap, snake crap.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilG View Post
    Whatever you do, avoid Kaufman's "interpretation".
    My parent's bought me that, I took one look at the name of the author on the cover and have never opened it.

    Obviously thanked them for it et al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon View Post
    Hmm, I'll have to check. I think that's the copy I have...

    Curiosity, what are your misgivings over it?
    It's not a translation, it's Kaufman's "interpretation". And seeing as he can't even translate the name of his own BS dojo correctly...

    I'm sure he's been thoroughly stomped on here, and if you do a search for him on e-budo you will find plenty of reasons to avoid anything the man is involved with like the plague. He was actually one of e-budo's first highlight guests, but after we took him to task for, well, everything, he left in a huff.
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