Judo Weakness

**willy** · Posted On: 3/11/2004 11:05pm

i have never had a problem with wrestlers beyond the fact that compared to most other martial artists wrestlers conditoning is top notch in most cases. also they generally tend to be very quick on the ground and harder to sweep but if you flow with them i always can always find a submisson eventually.

**blankslate** · Posted On: 3/11/2004 11:06pm

Would you rather fight a boxer or a wrestler?

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 3/11/2004 11:10pm

I shoot for singles/doubles all the time, but I suck. Most experienced judoka I spar with know how to avoid the takedowns.

**willy** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 12:07am

wrestler- boxing is completely out of my element as i have no strking training yet

**J-kid** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 12:46am

Originally posted by blankslate
What all do you train in, J-Kid?

Better question is what dont i train in.

Feel free to look at sig....

**infidel** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 12:49am

i was under the impression that in judo competition taking somebody down for the intention of newaza is not allowed and only after a failed attempted throw can the fight go to the ground. wounldn't that mean that singles and double leg takedowns would be against competition rules?

**NHB_Ben** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 2:09am

Seeing as how I have a 50/50 baclground in each, I'd say this: No-gi, it's better to be the wrestler; with gi, you want to be the judo guy. The ability to use clothing makes it a lot easier to simply stiff-arm a shoot.

**willy** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 3:09am

infiedel it is illeagel to drag down but as long as you have speed control and force a double or single counts, also a good double will lift your feet off the ground and slam you down

**drunkenj** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 3:56am

saying that wrestlers own judoka is nonsense: I know two wrestlers who have taken up judo (as they are studying in europe) . They both adapted to judo very well- one being exceptionally good- he really can beat black belts easily, he has been wrestling since age five.... a natural

However the first time i fought a wrestler at judo (before he had a gi) i owned him...... threw him with sumi-gaeshi easily chokes and armbars all over the place.... he had no knowledge of the guard postion or subs

**mikus** · Posted On: 3/12/2004 10:13am

There's one former high school wrestler who was apparently pretty good who just started coming to my club. I beat him on ground work pretty damn easily. Oddly enough, I sweep him at will and it's harder for me to pass his guard, which is the opposite of what I usually have noticed with wrestlers.

Infidel: It's completely legal. It's illegal to hold onto the leg if you're not constantly attacking, though. You can only hold it for like 3 seconds without attacking. Some refs are biased against it and may not give ippon as easily, however (really fucking annoying). What they mean by "dragdowns" are failed sacrifice throws that you use to pull guard.