Posted On:3/10/2004 11:15pm
Interesting little comment on Judo... but may speak volumes in fighting one of those:
"Chiaramonte comes from a judo background, which is an advantage, but he must adapt to defend his legs. Clarke finds this a weakness in many wrestlers that began their career in judo."
Posted On:3/11/2004 4:25pm
sounds reasonable most judo guys don't have much experience having people shoot in. Not to say there isn't single leg, double, leg, and heal shoots in judo, they just aren't as commonly done.
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Posted On:3/11/2004 4:29pm
Style: BJJ, Karate,
I have friend who only wrestled in H.S. who absolutely OWN judo black belts. Judo is primarily a standup/throwing game that depends on a jacket. Some schools may be different but thats like saying some BJJ schools excel at striking. They may be out there but they're few and far between.
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By the way, wrestling owns Judo 1 on 1 but Judo owns on the street against the average person.
Wrestling>Judo when they thrw hands on each other.
Judo>wrestling for learning self defense.
Posted On:3/11/2004 4:35pm
ya i think judo is more street viable, for the sheer amount of throws possible. Falling on the concrete without knowing how to fall is going to shatter your collarbone at the least.
I do think wrestling is a really good MA/Sport as is judo but I don't necessarily think it's better than judo. First and foremost its up to the person, you could have the greatest MA in the world but if you can't motor than your out of luck.
For a judo guy to be effective vs a wrestling guy I think the main thing they'd have to accomplish is a good sprawl. That's basically your defense vs a wrestler or a bjj guy. Although I give credit to wrestling I think they are on average better conditioned than judo and bjj guys and have a wider variety of takedowns than a bjj guy. I'm not well versed on either to any great extent though so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Posted On:3/11/2004 6:08pm
PeedeeShaolin is correct.
Posted On:3/11/2004 6:39pm
It would be great to do both...very complementary to each other.
Posted On:3/11/2004 7:34pm
Oh come on. Jesus christ. A judo blackbelt at my club wrestled for 7 years. For the first five he almost never used double legs, purely throws in the clinch and he apparently did well.
I know Joshua Resnick went very far doing freestyle wrestling, having never spent much time training it, before getting disqualified for slamming someone.
Two counter-examples. That doesn't mean all judoka will beat wrestlers, but that it depends on the person. At the top levels there are MANY people who shoot doubles/singles. If judoka have no idea how to defend them then why don't some wrestlers go to high level judo competition and destroy them? It's not like doubles/singles are illegal or anything.
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Posted On:3/11/2004 8:09pm
Style: MMA-Vale Tudo
I do both and own both :P
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Posted On:3/11/2004 11:23pm
Originally posted by J-kid
I do both and own both :P
What all do you train in, J-Kid?
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