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  1. bitparity is offline

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    Can cooked food ever increase in calories from its raw ingredients?

    Example, say I have one medium onion that's 50 calories and one teaspoon of canola oil that's 10 calories. So raw ingredients 60 calories.

    But say I slice up that onion, cook it, and now the onion is carmelized. Is the onion now more than 60 calories?

    Does the chemical processes involved in cooking actually increase potential calories?

    Or on the basis of how calories are decided, (the amount of energy released by burning said object to raise water temperature by 1 degree) will cooked ingredient calories never exceed its raw ingredient calories?

    Just curious, for the purposes of calorie counting.
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    I'm pretty sure that you can't add calories to something just by cooking it, but you can reduce the amount of water in a food so that it has more calories for its size.
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    Obviously, someone's not going to be taking the ACTs and/or the Regents tests in science.

    Edit: or is Canadian.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    What's the answer then??

    EDIT: There's a reason why "Are you smarter than a 5th grader" is a popular show. Most of us aren't. Could still use an answer though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitparity View Post
    What's the answer then??

    EDIT: There's a reason why "Are you smarter than a 5th grader" is a popular show. Most of us aren't. Could still use an answer though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    I'm pretty sure that you can't add calories to something just by cooking it, but you can reduce the amount of water in a food so that it has more calories for its size.
    Looks like you have an answer.
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    Well unfortunately, Tom Kagan's snarky answer (re: we're science flunkies) puts that into dispute. Was he talking about me or Permalost? Or both of us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitparity View Post
    Well unfortunately, Tom Kagan's snarky answer (re: we're science flunkies) puts that into dispute. Was he talking about me or Permalost? Or both of us?
    The differences are negligible. You might "gain" calories by making something easier to digest (e.g. starches), but you also "lose" calories by burning off fats, alcohols, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitparity View Post
    Or on the basis of how calories are decided, (the amount of energy released by burning said object to raise water temperature by 1 degree) will cooked ingredient calories never exceed its raw ingredient calories?
    A Food Calorie is the amount of energy required to raise 1 kilogram of water 1 degree celsius. A small calorie is the unit of energy (1/1000th of a Calorie) required to raise 1 gram 1 degree Celsius. I would not use the term "burning" though.

    1 Food Calorie is equivalent to a kilocalorie in the energy dynamics sense. So 1 Food Calorie = small 1000 calories or about 4.18 kilojoules (the current SI unit of energy measure).

    You cannot add caloric energy to food by cooking it, in fact you will often take calories away (burnt food has less calories, the chemicals required to create energy have been destroyed).

    You can however add caloric energy by adding ingredients that contain calories (i.e. butter).
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    Which weighs more: a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan View Post
    Which weighs more: a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?
    A pound of bacon weighs 1.1 lbs cooked. The extra 0.1 lbs is the added awesome.
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