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  1. WingChun Lawyer is offline
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    Hapko: You are probably right, thanks for the advice. My cup is full, as Bruce Lee would have said (couldn´t help it); I must concentrate on MT when I practice MT. Hell, I am a lawyer not a fighter, I should concentrate on learning rather than outfighting those guys.

    I disagree with you on the performance issue, though. I NEVER thought I did OK against that guy, I just thought that WC techniques worked fine against MT techniques - I still do think so, but I also agree that WC doesn´t hold all the answers (specially regarding high hooks).

    And I remember your post, certainly. But then I am far from a brown belt in anything, I am just a lawyer who does MA twice a week...I think I should mostly concentrate on not trying to prove anything and just learn what those guys can teach me. Stupid lawyer.

    D. Fingers: yup, no arguments here.

    nasty totoro: funny you should mention this, the guy got me precisely with a left hook. JKDchick, if you read this thread, I would appreciate your comments.

    BeLikeWater: at the moment, the ONLY wing chun defense I entirely do trust is the tan sao against jabs. The guys just can´t find an opening.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
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    I have always thought that the "fa que" defense in WC was the best.
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    Posted On:
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    I have always thought that the "fa que" defense in WC was the best.
    Please elaborate.
    That civilisation may not sink,
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    Read and SOUND OUT, "FA QUE" :)
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    Read and SOUND OUT, "FA QUE" :)
    Damn you and your portuguese humor.
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    :D
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    when you start chain punching ... where does the hand you just punch back go to ?
    totoro-san ... world sushi munching champion ...

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    If you end up fighting with a good clincher/kneer charging in without kicking will get you horribly owned. So, either you guys aren't doing knees and clinch when you spar or your sparring partmers aren't good at it. Which is it? Specifically what rules do you guys use when you spar?
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    here's a my very limited experience with sparring with WC, JKD people ...

    1. their lead hand in the guard tend to be too far out ... this allows for a jab, left hook setup ... and also allows for left hook counters ...

    2. when punching with the lead ... their other hand sometimes protects their lead side face ... this can leave them open to an overhand right ....

    3. they have a tendency just to come straigt in ... against a good counter puncher .. this is death ...

    4. they don't kick enough ... but then neither do i ... they should use MT style low kicks to set up the chain punches ...

    5. they don't keep their chins tucked in ...

    6. they don't move their body enough ... slip and bob ..

    7. some of their blocks extend the arm too far ... leaving them open for hooks or uppercuts ...

    8. they don't try feel the oponent enough with jabs ... need to set up those chain punches ...

    of course ... i still haven't sparred with a really good WC,JKD person yet ...
    totoro-san ... world sushi munching champion ...

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    Whiteshark: the rules - no elbows, no knees. And I agree with you, gotta learn how to kick.

    Nasty Totoro: I never actually tried to chain punch, I did however use straight punches to good effect.
    That civilisation may not sink,
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    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
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    Our master Caesar is in the tent
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